AI ART

:vufhcycdgxtsts March 30, 2025 3:05 am

Guys please don’t read/support this creator as they are using AI, look closely at the hands and little details in the images they are AI, as well as the face art style inconsistency’s. I’m an artist and it saddens me that someone is using AI that is made from stealing the brush strokes of other artists to create a story when they could hire an artist or learn the craft themselves

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    pigglypoof April 3, 2025 11:38 pm
    Another one is the fish on the first dew panels of chapter 1, the design and lineart is clearly ai generated, the close up of the seagull also has illogical lines, do you see what I’m saying? :vufhcycdgxtsts

    Idk if those could be considered stylistic choices or not. But I did take a closer look at some of the backgrounds and I actually did find some odd things. Obviously not enough to say for sure whether AI was used, but they are really unusual mistakes for an artist to make.

    The seagull under the sun:
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-21/

    The seagull next to the textbox:
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-23/

    The candles that blend into the wall:
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1.5/pg-2/

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 1:36 am
    Idk if those could be considered stylistic choices or not. But I did take a closer look at some of the backgrounds and I actually did find some odd things. Obviously not enough to say for sure whether AI was us... pigglypoof

    Yes!! Please if you can link the fish as well in the first couple panels of chapter 1, those are undoubtedly AI patterns/“mistakes” this artist is 100% using AI I don’t doubt it (this is not to knock them, JUST pointing it out for those who don’t want to read AI stuff) another thing that was interesting was towards the end of chapter 1, when the mc is clasping her hands together it is clearly AI, especially when contrasted to the mermaids hands in the panel she first shows up in, clear indicator to me

    pigglypoof April 4, 2025 1:42 am
    Yes!! Please if you can link the fish as well in the first couple panels of chapter 1, those are undoubtedly AI patterns/“mistakes” this artist is 100% using AI I don’t doubt it (this is not to knock them... :vufhcycdgxtsts

    This fish close up?
    https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-27/

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 2:19 am
    This fish close up? https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-27/ pigglypoof

    But if you look at all the other panels after that, that has fishes you can tell theyre drawn in the same way but varying levels of details according to distance n focus point. Thats just how they drw fish, putting emphasis on the eyes by hatching it.

    Seagulls are using an outline brush so they create the shape without lifting off the pen. The 2nd seagull you said has a stroke thats not uniform likely from pen jitter or their pen has a hard time registering super light pressure and extreme angles.

    The candles that blend into walls. You gotta try seeing it from their perspective. The background was probably started as just painting(color blocking, so never made tiny details, a candle could be drawn as just a nonchalant 1stroke and etc.) Before it was outlined with a thin with high max size, you can tell cus theyre doing the same thing to all the walls, hands, clouds, waves.

    Hands to me seem consistent when you see that they use an outline brush to wing the fingers and move on. The only time they draw the hands and not block it out is often close ups or the mermaid(maybe due to the claws).

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 2:21 am
    But if you look at all the other panels after that, that has fishes you can tell theyre drawn in the same way but varying levels of details according to distance n focus point. Thats just how they drw fish, put... Fudanshi

    https://docs.krita.org/en/tutorials/krita-brush-tips/outline.html
    This is an example of an outline brush
    Which is likely being used on the seagulls, fish, nets, hair, highlights, waves, clouds and sea reflection.
    They seem to have the black part in different thickness as well as a color version.

    https://help.clip-studio.com/en-us/manual_en/390_filters/390_filters.htm
    This is the filters and effects.(background, shadows)

    And i dont need to show texture brushes for the foam, rocks and alot of other things

    pigglypoof April 4, 2025 2:26 am
    But if you look at all the other panels after that, that has fishes you can tell theyre drawn in the same way but varying levels of details according to distance n focus point. Thats just how they drw fish, put... Fudanshi

    Could you explain the candle one a bit more? The others I can understand, but the candle essentially just becoming part of the wall is odd to me.

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 2:56 am
    This fish close up? https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_wind_spell/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-27/ pigglypoof

    Yes that’s the one! The squares in the middle are clearly not drawn by hand and the other fish later on have different shapes/patterns

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 2:57 am
    https://docs.krita.org/en/tutorials/krita-brush-tips/outline.htmlThis is an example of an outline brushWhich is likely being used on the seagulls, fish, nets, hair, highlights, waves, clouds and sea reflection.... Fudanshi

    Yeah I assumed they were using the outline brush which is why some of the lineart is inconsistent!

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 2:58 am
    Yeah I assumed they were using the outline brush which is why some of the lineart is inconsistent! :vufhcycdgxtsts

    Inconsistent as in- if they just use that brush and other brushes in combination the style would be consistent, but it’s inconsistent because of the AI interfering/getting confused

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 3:06 am
    But if you look at all the other panels after that, that has fishes you can tell theyre drawn in the same way but varying levels of details according to distance n focus point. Thats just how they drw fish, put... Fudanshi

    Hopefully this works lol but this panel shows the style inconsistencies I’m talking about+illogical line art

    https://iweb_3.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/the_wind_spell/3/88d353fb7d281d11f860ff0ef811c0c2.webp


    This is very clearly AI especially if you do the mental excercise of tracing back the lineart and seeing if it just makes sense or has any rhythm to it

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 3:07 am
    Hopefully this works lol but this panel shows the style inconsistencies I’m talking about+illogical line art https://iweb_3.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/the_wind_spell/3/88d353fb7d281d11f860ff0ef811c0c2.w... :vufhcycdgxtsts

    I’m talking about the hand specifically, the elongated thumb, the weird hesitation in the lineart, the difference in style, the point where the line art ”fizzles” out into the fish, this, to me, is clearly AI

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 3:17 am
    Could you explain the candle one a bit more? The others I can understand, but the candle essentially just becoming part of the wall is odd to me. pigglypoof

    Ok so theres 2 candles there, im assuming you are confused on the right one.

    So the first layer of color is actually the pale gray and not the shadow color, you can tell from the other candle and the candle we are talking about now they have the same color which means they never painted any color in the candle. Like if other artists would draw a white brush, they chose to instead shape the look of candles using the shadows which likely suggests that the candle was added later.

    You can see this from looking at the center, on the bottom right of the window theres a shadow with a hole in it that shows what was painted below the shadow and it was the same color as the other walls and candle. So it wasnt that the candle was blending into the wall. It was never colored or drawn in from the start. when they added the shadows they then show the candle by using negative space.(outlining the shadow but avoiding the shape of a candle. However the stand of the candles was actually drawn in since it is way darker than the wall. After drawing the shadows outline. They draw over the candle stand on the left as well as the 2 small stand like object beside the cross.

    So why didnt they just use a diff color for the candle? Why use the wall? Probably they didnt want to bring attention to it. The only point with contrast is the window and light
    Going from the people to the other side. The people, altar, and window is the focus because those are the things that make it visually recognisable as a place of worship even from afar. You can squint and tell.

    Another reason why the artist didnt use a diff color for the candle is consistency. They are limiting their color palette or jusf lazy to keep adjusting values, but you can see this by the chairs colors being the same as the candle stand and other things. It seems they reuse the same value for multiple objects in the scene like the people being given variation by only using 3 values. The man scarf to the women headcover to the pastor beard. Frankly i find it genius.

    The only thing i cant read is the scribble beside fhe altar emblem. To me it could be a lock or butterfly but only the artist would know.

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 3:25 am
    Ok so theres 2 candles there, im assuming you are confused on the right one.So the first layer of color is actually the pale gray and not the shadow color, you can tell from the other candle and the candle we a... Fudanshi

    I forgot to write that the light was also directing your sight to the dark totem? Gylyph? Rune?

    Dk whats its called but its shown in detail on the next panel.
    I doubt AI can make these intentional choices in composition to cohesively bring the reader to the next panel and progress the story.

    pigglypoof April 4, 2025 3:25 am
    Ok so theres 2 candles there, im assuming you are confused on the right one.So the first layer of color is actually the pale gray and not the shadow color, you can tell from the other candle and the candle we a... Fudanshi

    That's really interesting. Thanks for explaining!

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 3:38 am
    Yes that’s the one! The squares in the middle are clearly not drawn by hand and the other fish later on have different shapes/patterns :vufhcycdgxtsts

    Wouldnt this be a sign that it isnt AI tho? If the fish shape and pattern all look the same either they copy pasted, has a 3d model, or used AI. Pretty sure AI can make the same looking fish multiple times in many diff angles. The fishes shown in the comic has diff details according to size being shown in the panel but the color, use of blobby highlights and how they draw scales is all the same style.

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 3:45 am
    I’m talking about the hand specifically, the elongated thumb, the weird hesitation in the lineart, the difference in style, the point where the line art ”fizzles” out into the fish, this, to me, is clearl... :vufhcycdgxtsts

    if u look at all the hands in this comic. All of them have problems defining where the joints are and the length between supposed joints. Seems like the artist is just not as comfortable with hands.

    When you say lineart fizzling into the fish, you talking about the thumb? If you zoom in super closely, they actually draw a slight round line, but never connected the nail so when it was colored, They probably made a mistake coloring over the nail.
    However, it could also be a result of csp auto color.

    Also ripples are mix of filters and paint over on top. Fish looked fine.

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 4:05 am

    Also people here seem to have questionable morals.

    Hardworking artist having their work *actually stolen* by being put on here: All good.

    but AI art : "it saddens me that someone is using AI that is made from *stealing* the brush strokes of other artists to create a story when they could hire an artist or learn the craft themselves."

    Do you see how ridiculous this is?

    "Guys please don’t read/support this creator as they are using AI"

    In the first place, being here doesnt support artists in any way. Hell did you see the drama between artists trying to sue this place and having mental health problems due to this. Some artists even stopped their comics because it is put on here.

    You are acting like those people who is against abortion but support the very system that makes kids life hard.

    Acting like you are on the artists side while being here taking advantage of them?

    Im already here reading this, so the least i can do is not put down the artist.

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 3:52 pm
    Also people here seem to have questionable morals. Hardworking artist having their work *actually stolen* by being put on here: All good.but AI art : "it saddens me that someone is using AI that is made from *s... Fudanshi

    I think my reply was deleted, but I’ll summarize what I said lol

    -I subscribe to every artisrs patreon whose comic I read
    -I never made a moral argument or stance
    -your not entitled to an explanation
    -and I only use this website to find new comics which I transition to the actually artists comic page after, the only comics I have not done that with are one piece lmao

    Theres rlly no way for me to prove that so I’m just gonna say it and you do wtv you feel is good with that information

    And also never use abortion as an example or even the same thing for people pirating comics and real life women fucking dying because of lack of access, have some shame. The reasons you gave for the panels not being are not convincing, are illogical, and take big leaps to make a point, so they are not convincing arguments. I did not make a moral argument, I simply presented a fact, and for you to assume that I’m actively fucking over artisrs and that im evil because I’m on the website without any context is clearly a side effect of you being on the internet too much.

    Fudanshi April 4, 2025 6:21 pm
    I think my reply was deleted, but I’ll summarize what I said lol-I subscribe to every artisrs patreon whose comic I read -I never made a moral argument or stance-your not entitled to an explanation -and I onl... :vufhcycdgxtsts

    So its okay for you to accuse someone of AI and then give reason such as "oh yeah this panel and that panel" "just looks weird" but when i give reasons with details and hypothesis, its illogical and take big leaps to make a point. If only you put that much effort into study and research before accusing the artist of AI you couldve convinced people. But all you do is say "100%" "clearly" "obvious" "the truth" "a fact" "..." prove it then.

    Oh and "i can practically see the algebra behind the drawings" then it should be easy for you to explain but nah youre using the "just trust me bro"

    :vufhcycdgxtsts April 4, 2025 8:56 pm
    So its okay for you to accuse someone of AI and then give reason such as "oh yeah this panel and that panel" "just looks weird" but when i give reasons with details and hypothesis, its illogical and take big le... Fudanshi

    Yes because the panels such as the fish, the candles, the hand I linked, are clear examples of AI. If I showed you the studio ghibli ai artwork theres not much I can say to prove to you it’s AI other than the fact that logically, a lot of the decisions being made, don’t make sense. You did not provide enough reasoning explaining why the fingers line art fizzled, you even said look closer it connects, do you see how that’s not proof it’s NOT ai? The proof that it is AI is that the line is visually nonesense, especially when compared to the other hands in the comic, especially the one where the mermaid was first introduced (which clearly had hand drawn hands) to me that’s a telltale sign of AI, if you don’t recognize that then I really have no way else to explain it. Like I told someone else, theres no way for me to 100% prove this persons using AI because rhat would require I have access to their drawing files and live recordings which would literally be impossible for me to do, the only thing I have is the incredibly obvious times where they do use AI and the artist didnt go back and refine it enough, like the hand, the patterns of the fish, the candles, I’m honestly even throwing in the line quality of the sky sometimes. The reason I pointed this out was because I wanted to let the people who were going to go and support the artists actual comic (which is what I was gonna do) just giving them a heads up that if AI is something that bothers you maybe think twice about consuming AI, because let’s be fucking real, pirating is not what is gonna put artists out of jobs, it’s AI, so touching back on your moral argument, even that falls apart pretty quickly. I think pushing back on my claim is important as takijg the word of a stranger online would be stupid, but thr way you and others have conducted yourselves is kinda crazy and throwing personal attacks my way is not the way to do it. I’m glad that you brought up counter arguments as that is important, but I’m pointing out how that’s not sufficient to explain where the logic would be for the artist to pick up the pen, put the pen down, and somehow among the long pen stroke that are clearly happening in other parts of the comic somehow stop in this one instance, and do a weird fizzle out effect that doesn’t make sense, regardless of whatever brush, style, layer mode, or anything else possible. Especially when there are multiple instances of this.