Not to mention, the background gets less detailed the further they are. I saw a bunch of props that looks so lazy and hand drawn like the cup in the market. Only a human wouldve been that lazy to just outline an oval and fvck it. It looks to me more like just putting squiggly brush strokes to give the finishing touches. The cup was so close to the reader's view that AI couldve made it detailed so easily. And you can see from the market panel that they even draw the ocean with a white outline brush and just put a wiggly. The parts you mistaken as AI is just because the artist wasnt trying to be perfect and wanting to move on the next panel quickly. Isnt tiredness a human trait. Also seagulls with no outline and just a random brushstroke looks like AI cus why would such a talented artist make something bad, but AI could make it closer to its shape and way too easily too. So only a human would be able to purposely make such a bad seagull.
thanks for pointing this out honestly i thought i was going crazy. i've been squinting at the mermaid's hair in particular and so many of the strands just don't make any sense. i get the stylization but no artists would make some of those decisions. it seems like the artist enhanced their own art with ai, a lot of it still looks very human and skilled but the details just throw me off. the story is soo intruiging but i don't know if i can stomach the risk of it being ai... very disappointing :(
Yes thank you that is exactly my point!
No I do this too when I make short stories/comics, the hands are sometimes backwards, the strokes of the lineart don’t make sense logically for a human to make, and the style is very inconsistent, this artist heavily alters the AI product but it is still AI nonetheless
Im pretty sure the mermaids hair is messy cus the artist used a hairbrush(the one with multiple strands per stroke and empty fill) when they layer the brush stroke one after another it gets wild like that.
I find the style quite consistent though. And by consistent i meant the color, shading and the way they draw eyelashes. Hand drawn characters arent usually vonsistent in every angle anyway especially if its a painterly style like this, its not like 3d models. Can you tell me which panels has a hand backwards?
When you say strokes of lineart i hope you meant just the black lines because the lines thats usually on higlights and shadows are a watercolor effect on csp that can automatically create borders where 2 different values collide.
Chinese artists often draw hair messy n faded in some areas:
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrhBBArL/
Im sure if u see the finished hair on the bottom left that it look like AI but isnt
A lot of artists SUCK at drawing hands, they make mistakes. Inconsistencies doesn't mean it's AI. You can't just point at someone's work and say, "yeah, that's AI" just because you are a "classically taught freelance artist". That just reeks of superiority complex. Your suspicion is just that, suspicion. It doesn't mean it's AI for sure.
The inconsistencies made by AI, are the same things real artists could actually make.
Just came here to say I came back after checking and it still doesn't look like AI. I see many artists get accused of using AI while it's not true.
It has become a trend to witch hunt and accuse genuine artists of ai use, especially on twitter.They recently bullied an artist into deleting their account just because their art style is mediocre and the 'hands' were used as supposed proof. The truth is that non of these accusers have genuine proof yet they dox and boycott people with nothing but assumptions. They move with the mindset "Everyone's guilty until proven innocent" which is massively destructive and scares away people from starting projects and sharing their art. In this case as well NO ONE has ANY proof, yet they demand of others to "not support" this artist just because of their assumption only. I've been accused of sharing 'ai art' before and i know how freaking painful it is. It's very disrespectful.
Uh i think you replied to the wrong person ╥﹏╥
Who am I doxxing bro you are comparing apples to oranges, this is just a conversation in a small section of the internet I’m not sending hoards of people out or doing a mass campaign to doxx people I’m sorry with all the respect in the world maybe take a break from twitter. This artist is very clearly and visibly using AI, whether you support or don’t doesn’t bother me I just wanted to let people know in case they cared about AI art being used because quiet frankly I can’t really prove their using AI the same way I can’t mathematically prove gravity to you right now. In order to genuinely prove it I would need to search through the artists drawing files, have recordings of them drawing the specific panels, etc. there’s no way to prove anything except for the little things rhat I can point out to like the backwards hands, the line art issues (the black parts) the art style slightly changing, notably the eyes, etc, it’s all minute because the artist is talented and clearly knows what their doing. That is all
Lmao I mean I get that most comics operate rhe same way it’s very rare that a comic has a crazy rendered background, most of the time they are scribbles, however, artists spend hours drawing those scribbles, because even those scribbles take a long time and a lot of knowledge to properly convey visually what’s happening with such little detail, this artist clearly knows how to do that, however, sometimes this stops being present, where the art just doesn’t seem to logically make sense, for example, some hands are backwards, this is not just a mistake someone would make, they are spending hours on these backgrounds and most likely have a team, unless they don’t have a team and are using AI to compensate/take short cuts, that is my stance
You have to understand that this person is not your average twitter artist, their skill is that of a professional, rhe mistakes they will make are not the ones you often see, the type of “mistakes” they would make are more likely to be deliberate decisions (making the hand not very well detailed, or maybe the proportions are different) those are the mistakes this level of an artist would make they are not an amateur. Let’s pretend they are tho for the sake of the argument, I’m not criticizing how “good” their hands are, often times drawing terrible hands is a sign your NOT using AI, but the hand issues here are only ones a compute system would make (like completely changing the direction of the hand to literally be backwards) make strokes rhat a human would just never make. Maybe I’m not articulated enough to explain this but I tried my best, also real “classically trained artists” should and would never belittle others for their artwork or skill level, because we all sucked, and I remember what it was like to suck, so it’s not really something common among people who are actually trained, this is something weird amateur ego-maniacs do, or people on the internet, please meet real life artists and working artists
Would be nice if you could give exact panels and examples of what you're seeing as signs of AI. I only found one hand that could be considered "backwards", but even that I could forgive as the artist misjudging the perspective of a hand pulling a chain. I'm also not seeing these obvious inconsistencies in line work and style that you're seeing either.
Are you really an artist if you care more about AI but not the fact that you're here, an illegal site profiting off artists? An artist would never blatantly accuse someone is using AI without facts or concrete proof. Are you the best artist in the world? An AI expert? What makes you think your eyes are better than everyone here thats denying your accusations, that you shamelessly talk as if you're correct. I can just as easily accuse you of using AI and tell everyone to not support you. You're guilty until proven otherwise, thats what you're doing afterall? If this artist didnt use AI and proven it, what are you gonna do? Just say sorry and move on? With no consequences when you ruined their reputation and trust and cause them hurt? Its easy to accuse someone of AI, you just have to search and anything can be a sign for someone like you. Its confirmation bias. What even is "classically trained artist" acting as if that somehow makes you superior than other artists. Do you think anyone in the industry would be on your side? Your evidence is weak as hell but you immediately acted as if its facts. Any other artists would say you're jumping the gun here. I wouldve ignored you if you never wrote " learn the craft themselves" in your original comment. Exactly what are you implying?
Professionals can't make mistakes now? This is a webtoon, where artist need to draw A LOT, and within a certain period of time.
"please meet real life artists and working artists" there, there you again with your judgement towards someone you don't even know or met irl. I am an artist myself fyi. At this point, you're just hating on the creator of this manhwa. You don't even have solid proof to back up your claims, yet you go telling people to not read or support this creator.
It’s not about making mistakes or not it’s about what KIND of mistakes you can be an artist doesn’t mean it wouldn’t benefit to meet more and expand your horizons that advice I give to myself too, look at the patterns of the fish on the first few panels, look at the clothing folds, emphasis on the fish btw that is CLEAR indication of AI why tf would I hate on other artists I love supporting artists and uplifting I’m just pointing out a fact, and btw uour the one who started with the personal attacks towards me so don’t play victim
Another one is the fish on the first dew panels of chapter 1, the design and lineart is clearly ai generated, the close up of the seagull also has illogical lines, do you see what I’m saying?
Guys please don’t read/support this creator as they are using AI, look closely at the hands and little details in the images they are AI, as well as the face art style inconsistency’s. I’m an artist and it saddens me that someone is using AI that is made from stealing the brush strokes of other artists to create a story when they could hire an artist or learn the craft themselves