!!!Normalizing a r*pist behavior is no different than supporting a r*pist!!!

I think there is a difference in normalising and using it as a plot device. Even if authors or creators displayed horrible acts of crime into their works, it doesn't mean they support such acts, the same goes with readers. I do myself love listening/watching to true crimes podcasts/documentaries but it doesn't mean I took pleasure to such stories.

We also have to realize that we are human civilisation built after our predecessors, we are what we create the society to be. If artists decided to create a work after no one predecessors, in this example, devil and angels society, it's not in our own measures to label them because we are all intruding a work of fiction. Something we all venture on our own risks. I think we should try to assess our own emotions and avoid projecting ideas immediately, accusing authors or readers of unfounded claims. You are not what you create and you are not what you consume. There should be a very thick line there especially for fictions.

People like to see something they don't deem to see in the real world then come to bite back the people who try to conquer such. Even if you want to play an angel's advocate, this is not how you do it. You could try to warn and advocate the harm of rape and how you don't like how this played out here which for me was not glossed over at all, maybe you think the author is trying to white wash Daewoon but for me it's not at all until I see your comment. I didn't mean to anything, just for me, you should wait for the follow up for that side characters because I don't think they could go on them deep yet. For me though, they are the least of my worry. What I want is to Seong-ah to finally meet his family.

Sorry for preaching, I totally get you. I just felt like this is not healthy at all. That's all. Have a good day!

I am still reading this story and I will in the future too...bcoz I really love this story. And yes, I am glad that nothing like that happened between the main couple and that's why it's not a very big reason for me not like this story.
And "using it as a plot device"...I totally got it too. Having sa or rape scenes don't matter if it's presented in a corrent way like as someone's trauma. For a plot device where a character had gone through so much...author can surely use sa or rape scenes, bcoz it shows the cruelty of reality. If the rape or sa scene is potrayed as those scenes...then it's better. Real life is not a fairytale, all ppl are going through their sufferings in their everyday life...many ppl especially girls r being harrassed and raped a lot...Even many ppl r working with many sexual activities like being a prostitute...mostly bcoz they didn't have any choice. All ppl have their own untold story so we can nvr judge anyone without knowing. Showing these sides in a story is amazing. And here, in this story, you can say that author used the rape scene to show us that character's true nature...to show us how far he actually can go...that's how his character supposed to be. And you know what...if you think that way, your thinking is totally valid. I don't have complain about that issue. My complain is about...how other characters react on this issue...how the author just brush it off so easily. If that's how his character was meant to be, and he should have been viewed like that by every other characters too. Joon should have felt totally disappointed and disguised with him. But instead he felt sorry which is just ridiculous. It's literally showing that it's not a big issue if someone close does something like that you. They are really brushing it off like it's not a big issue or it nvr happened. That's the real problem. Hope you understand now.

Yeah, I was actually not coming after you, I just felt like you might need to hear that no matter what a person creates or whatever that person read, it doesn't define them as a person at all. I just don't like the normalising and supporting stance as the author and readers never directly make it like that.

I do get it honestly especially in BL genre, there is not enough accurate rape representation that most of us are just desensitized but yeah you're right everyone should still have some reminder that it's never okay and will never be okay. I do hope there is proper representation in sensitive topics like this. I have encounter rape victims before and most of them also glossed it over, maybe as a coping mechanism and told the stories in a light and joking manner but it also doesn't help how people would see despicable acts like this as well.

I, myself have a hard time empathizing with people especially if they don't carry the emotions that it should have, in this case, Joon. But yeah, I think most of us love this story. I don't like Daewoon and earlier I only thought about how cute WooYeol is and I'm pretty sure Daewoon is doing all of that because of Joon so I was like no, you have different motives.

So when the comments are like this, I thought their take away is different because my take away after this episode is how hyper aware and proud Woo Yeol is as a friend and he's a really good person. That's all. Thank you for engaging in a conversation with me, I'll take my leave, haha

I understand your points too. As I said I love this story too. If you wanna make it a comedy silly type story...why involve these things in the first place? But well I still want them to keep being silly. I will be glad if they just stopped showing us Daewoon and Joon together frequently and focus on the main couple even more. Well, if you want to read a BL where they have represented r*pe in the correct way, then I recommend "Stigma" (there's 2 bl with the same name, I am talking about the manga where the mc is Asian and the ml is American). I really recommend this story. Well, it was nice to have a conversation with you too.