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Are you not embarrassed saying that?

Lol for what? Casually liking a FICTIONAL story about twin having sex?

Even in fiction it isn’t just some "harmless preference". It reflects something morally twisted. Fiction that turns that into a love story or kink doesn’t make it less disgusting. It makes it worse because it glamorizes trauma, corrupts the meaning of family, and desensitizes people to twisted shit. If a story has to sexualize incest to be compelling, it’s not edgy, it’s straight up lazy, exploitative, and harmful.

PS: If you haven't think of that, maybe you lack basic decency and that your horniness overpower any critical thinking you might have or maybe you grew up in an abusive family so you don't know the meaning of a "normal family" so reading this story with that "happy ending" made you feel great, then, I'm sorry for that. Maybe your an only child from an only child parents so you never knew what it feels to have siblings or cousin?

If you really prefer reading them, then thread carefully because even if it's just fiction, your morals and lines of boundary between reality and fiction may blur.

for my personal curiosity, where did you get this notion from?
did you just draw conclusions from your personal experience or did you hear it somewhere?

Hello, I didnt think that that's what you'll first took from what I said? I grew up in a normal, loving family, and my opinion comes from a third-person perspective, not experience. Respectfully, if you are really asking where my notions and conclusion come from, it is coming from a place of basic common sense. You really don't need to do a full reasearch to reach the conclusion that INCEST IS WRONG. Also desensitization to harmful content is a real thing, and romanticizing incest even in fiction is not as harmless as people like to pretend it is.

no one has said anything about incest in the real world. we were talking about fiction, so my question was if the distinction with reality is blurry to you or where else does it come from the idea that that it changes someone's morality? does it apply to everyone?

sorry but, aside from not finding it true, I can't see this line of thought leading to any positive outcome.

I never said fiction and reality are the same, but to act like fiction has zero influence on how people think, feel, or normalize ideas is a bit naive imo. The line between them isn’t as clear cut as you think it is, especially when fiction repeatedly glorifies taboo or abusive dynamics. I've read articles regarding media psychology and narrative theory. Fiction impacts real life perception and desensitization. That’s not just a "me" thing, it’s human psychology. So if our opinions differ on this, maybe it’s more about what each of us is willing to normalize.

Ps: I hope that clears what I'm trying to pinpoint but if not I appreciate our conversation even if we don't see eye to eye with this topic.

Yes I believe fiction can effect people in CERTAIN situations. But attacking people online just cuz they can clearly see fiction and reality as a two diff thing is not helping. It would be a different story if I, myself actually committed a crime such as attacking and grooming people online. Ts doesnt effects anyone does it? If you have trouble with people or some fiction stuff, just ignore it lol???

When did I say anyone would immediately commit a crime because of fiction? Honestly, it’s starting to feel like you don’t have a reading comprehension because nowhere did I "attack" you. Again, what I pointed out is that normalizing these kinds of stories can make people THINK that abusive or exploitative dynamics are romantic, acceptable or even desirable. It can LOWER PEOPLE'S SENSITIVITY to real-life abuse, make victims feel invalidated, and blur the seriousness of real boundaries. I clearly stated the possible effects this content can have over time. If a calm discussion about media influence already feels like a personal attack to you, maybe you should reflect on why you’re reacting so defensively.

PS: This isn’t about “ policing fiction”. It’s about being aware that what we repeatedly consume can subtly shape how we think, whether we realize it or not.

you're being a bit dishonest now :) to me your first interaction come off as mormon missionary telling sinners to repent lol. I don't even get why you're in the comments of a manga that's clearly not for you...

and that "can" is doing a lot of work

Instead of engaging with the concern, your best comeback is comparing me to a missionary and dodging the actual convo. Honestly, it just shows you have no real argument against the point itself. If you were confident in your stance, you wouldn’t need to twist the conversation away from it. Funny how pointing out uncomfortable truths gets labeled as "dishonest" when you have no real counterpoint lol.

there was nothing to be concerned about. you were just being condescending for the sake of made up scenarios, overblown and misdirected.

there isn't the research backing this that you think there is and I have the suspicion that you would be far more understanding if the harmful topic of this story was murder.

You’re minimizing my concerns by saying there’s "nothing to be concerned about" accusing me of inventing "made up scenarios" instead of recognizing the real psychological effects media can have, claiming without proof that there’s no strong research when there actually is, and deflecting the conversation by making a FALSE EQUIVALENCE between normalizing incest in fiction and stories about murder.

If you’re still only interested in minimizing, twisting, and making weak analogies rather than engaging seriously, don’t bother replying.

it wasn't a one-to-one analogy because violent media has a stronger link to having an influence on real life... it's still bullshit and you can recognize it, that's why you need to do mental gymnastics to separate it from what personally disgusts you

You admitting it wasn’t a "one-to-one analogy" already shows your comparison was weak and irrelevant. Accusing me of “mental gymnastics” is just deflection, and calling my points “bullshit” without any real counter-argument is pure projection. The fact that you’re trying to reduce my stance to just 'personal disgust' instead of engaging with the wider moral and psychological concerns shows where your standards are when it comes to what personally disgusts you lol.

You’re trying so hard here lol??? If you have enough moral, you wouldve knew the difference between reality and fiction? Will you say the same thing if this manga is actually about murder and doesn’t have incest? Because if you want to talk about morality, murder, thriller manga also as you said, ‘normalise what’s shouldn’t'