let us put our thinking caps on!

DAWG I THOUGHT I WAS READING A WHOLE DIF MANWHA THE WAY THESE PPL KEEP BASHING THE BLONDE LIKE THESE ARE THE TYPA PPL THAT DONT SAY SHI WHEN THE TOP RAPES THE MC IN OTHER MANWAHS. I AM SO GLAD I FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE WHO AGREES

exactly bruh, do they not hear themselves acting like they know it all talking through their asses i genuinely can’t w them

confidently hating on blonde mc when he was the one who was taken advantage off and right after that he was left confused thinking it was his fault, basically putting all the blame on his self as to why his stupid ass “little brother” won’t talk to him when that bitchass was full on conscious during the rut jfc stop victim blaming y’all

I think in both situations we need to understand what's going on. Labeling one as a victim and the other as one who's at fault is dumb. Mc should've been more responsible when tracking his rut and he technically almost forced himself on Ml. The ml should've 100% left after giving medicine and its not like he didn't try to. Ml isn't ungrateful, i feel this chapter shows exactly how grateful he is, but in order for him to shove his feelings down he's colder. He's actually quite respectful, he doesn't confess bc he knows it will put the other in a hard place and he's aware of how it will only hurt himself in the end bc he knows ml doesn't see him like that. I understand this comment is directed at ppl hating on the Mc, but you can't expect the Ml to not act like a child when he literally is one. ML isnt even rude to mc he's just distant bc he KNOWS he won't be accepted. Its not easy to be close to someone you like that yk doesn't like you back and even worse considers you "family"

Clock it! It’s so complicated, I’m getting a headache!

you are correct!!!!

i agree with you! but like you said, this is directed for the people hating on mc. the one’s who hate on him despite the fact that mc never intended for his rut to spiral out of control, we need to remember that mc specifically started taking pills so he does not have to burden ml by taking a stranger home just so he could cure his rut. he knows ml is uncomfortable with him doing that so he stopped, i know that he almost forced himself on ml but ml actually was able to break away from mc, he could’ve just left. we shouldn’t excuse those kinds of actions and i know that you’re not making an excuse for ml but we can’t just completely ignore all that fact actually! and that is directed to everyone who’s hating on mc

i love coming across mgg users with working brain cells!!!! <3 thank you for this

"but you can't expect the Ml to not act like a child when he literally is one." are you referring to ch 15 alone or talking about yun-oh based on the entire story? Bc hes been acting cold and mopey to his hyung for the better part of this story and last time I checked, a korean university student is NOT a literal child

this too! let’s not baby a grown man, ml is an adult. he may be younger than mc but he’s still an adult let’s not forget that fact one of the key points as to why i think mc was obviously assaulted because first off, he’s unconscious and ml could’ve left, secondly, ml is an adult, he should know that having sex with someone who’s calling you a different name– a sign of being unconscious, is wrong. yes he has the rights to avoid mc, but for as low as not reciprocating his feelings you chose to distant yourself on someone who raised you and sees you as his only family leaving him confused thinking it was him who fucked up? yeah i think mc’s a complete victim but idk about the others…

Im referring to in this chapter where hes a highschool student. He has his uniform and everything. I feel like we also need to acknowledge he could also perhaps still br mentally young due to the abuse he experienced and mc doesnt treat him like an adult

Again he LIKES him and ismt tryna push his feelings onto him. I wouldnt exactly be chipper abt constantly watching my crush date a bunch of people and not even be able to confess bc i dont wanna ruin our relationship bc bro considers me as a "Brother" its a difficult situation for both of them

I agree with most you said except the "he couldve broke away" bc in the chapter when he pushed Mc off of him and tried to leave Mc grabbed his leg and he fell easily bc he was drunk. Both of them were under the influence, HOWEVER ML definitely had his head in a better state and shouldn't have gone that far. Ik your comment wasnt for ppl who dont victim blame MC but i do disagree that the ML is whiney and ungrateful

I guess this is just a matter of different opinions bc i dont necessarily see Mc as a victim (besides the technical SA) In this. Maybe its a bias towards the ML bc of how hard he tries to act as what mc wants him to be and sacrifices himself to uphold the relationship Mc wants them to have. Not to mention the fact bro helps Mc's ex's bc he sees himself in them even though he's never dated mc just hurtsss. So maybe my pov is a little muddled but i definitely dont agree with ppl bashing mc...for simply not realizing/acknowledging Mls feelings bc he doesnt see him that way

and he was still able to break away from mc actually! ml was even able to take mc to the bed and from then on he should’ve left at that. and i still do think ml is whiney and ungrateful, and you don’t have to agree with me. cause in my perspective, he may not push his feelings towards the mc but he’s still giving him an attitude and that’s him being ungrateful. chapter 13 is the prime example to that and that’s the chapter that made me see ml as an immature character. when mc is trying to have a talk with ml to ease things down, he lost his temper and he wouldn’t lose it for no reason; it’s because ml is giving him attitude. when mc said it’s not that big of a deal pertaining to them sleeping together, ml was hurt because he thinks that was a step for them to have something more– another reason why he started avoiding mc more. to me, he’s not avoiding mc because he doesn’t want to force his feelings to him. it may seem like that for the earlier chapters but now it seem to me that ml is just avoiding mc because he’s upset that despite them sleeping together, he’s still not a step closer into mc’s romantic space. and that’s him being mopy and ungrateful, doing the best he can just to avoid the person who took you in just because he did not harbor the same feelings.

um…? being sexually assaulted literally means you’re a victim…

Yeah thats why i said "(besides the sa)" when im talking abt "Victim" i mean relationship wise not physically

i misunderstood then… but that doesn’t change the fact how mc is still a victim despite it being in the “relationship wise” he was still assaulted and he may be fine with it but that does not undo what happened to him so nothing should be excluded we shouldn’t be making excuses to that it’s weird ass hell

I disagree. Having an attitude ≠ ungrateful. Its actually seen in chapter 15, ML doesn't like depending on mc cause he doesnt wanna be seen as a burden. ML knew Mc wouldn't see him the same even after the rut cycle but he was hurt bc Mc labeled it as smth so casual at the time. And it was ALSO proven ml distances himself bc he "Dont wanna be thrown away like that, so Endure" his words not mine and flinching at any touch from mc.I feel like its perhaps not my pov thats clouded. Ml is avoiding him not bc his "feelings arent accepted" but bc hes afraid of showing his feelings and being tossed aside. Not to mention although to YOU ml may seem ungrateful he's proven time and time again hes not at all. Old chapter 19 shows how hard hes tryna hide it bc he wants to maintain a relationship with mc. The chapter where hes drinking with friends shows it too. I feel like you just dont like him AND THATS FINE but the mischaracterization is insane to me. We mostly see Ml from MCs perspective so if hes not seeing him as ungrateful but just more distant than usual i personally dont see the ish. Ml snapped in chapter 19 bc Mc is always asking abt his relationships with women despite not telling him abt his. But if thats your opinion on him and you're set on it, it is what it is. I have no desire to convince you otherwise

Im not making excuses for Ml assaulting Mc? I literally acknowledged it multiple times. Im just saying in terms of mental discourse of their relationship hes not a victim. He knows exactly who he wants to be to Mc and is not put thru turmoil to achieve that