(づ￣ ³￣)づ. Yes!!!! I think exactly like you
*Insert Michael Scott's "thank you" gif* Hahaha. It's a bit frustrating to be honest, reading people complaining that he should treat her right and be nice to her and such, like, are we reading the same story???
Haha trueeeee
FRRR I thought the same... In the end, bro tried his best to stay away.
he did try!! And I hate that people don't see Elizabetta as the semi-villain she is, she was the one plotting, she used him, she tried to trick him, but what? Just because she fell in love and he can't then she's the martyr and he's the demon?
Trueeeee!!! Damn!(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
fr!! ppl are softer than a cotton candy nowadays. like ML isn't even human he's a goddamn dragon and it seems he've had only business/twisted relationships with humans so far (the king, the crazy lady who hated elisabetta, etc). I'm sure he'll gradually learn how to be more humane but it's not gonna happen overnight, it ain't that kind of story. For now let's just enjoy the angst (it's good) and wait for lesset and elisabetta's character development (they BOTH need it)
Thats all fine and dandy but...are we forgetting vanjela destroyed argan?? I dont see her as a villain for using him cuz he's literally with the forces who destroyed her kingdom. elise fell in love w him that was pretty dumb (cant really control feelings afterall) but i cant really blame her for using him to get her means.
lesset's character can be called douche-y while also keeping in mind the fact that he's a drangonborn, being dragon born is a reason, not an excuse. You can sympathize with him while accepting the fact that elise being hurt was valid
It was pretty simple really she asked if he loved her, he said no. She said aight and changed her priorities and now he dont really love her...but still wants her...thats a major douche move isnt it?
(there was a panel somewhere signalling at if he said yes than she wouldnt mind being with him i may be wrong in this one tho)
We can accept that hes a jerk and STILL like the character, those are not mutually exclusive. Because afterall if there's no scope for character development, will the story even be interesting.
Pt. 2 cuz i am not finished)
He is EXTREMELY in charscter AND THATS WHY PEOPLE HATE HIM. And thats one of the BEST part of this manhwa.
He does love her albeit in his own twisted, possessive dragonborn way, hes just not ready to accept it because of being treated as a monster all his life and yeah i sympathize with him, BUT i also can say he was acting like a jerk and elise being hurt is valid cuz its not mutually exclusive to hold him accountable WHILE sympathising with him.
You are the one getting emotional and not holding him accountable for what? His sad past? Guess what, its not a fucking EXCUSE. Its giving major irrational behaviour ngl
Exactlyyyy, same thoughts here
Tbh anything that commits genocide and SA deserves to be put down in my book but yeah you do you. And she was only using him bc she wanted to survive and go back to her country so yeah.
Mmmmh you want a trophy or something? A medal? Not sure what this comment has to do with anything I said.
"You do you" is a weird expression here, too. As if I said I like the manhwa or any of the characters. I don't, but I think at this point it was consistent.
I also didn't say anything against the female lead, "she only wanted to survive" again, what that has to do with anything I've said?
I swear many people just want to vent their traumas and frustrations and care so little about the argument, either the story, a discussion or other people's points.
Here, your medal
You were saying, “he has said explicitly how incapable he is of behaving like a regular human BECAUSE HE'S NOT ONE, he's more of a dragon than anything” and “People really are turning extremely soft and emotional, really not leaving much space for rationality” like it excuses him for committing genocide against an entire country, and from the domestic abuse he committed against fl. And also, being a HALF-dragon is a “reason” why he’s abusive, not an excuse. It’s absolutely acceptable to shit on him for being abusive and a genocidal monster, if we understand why he is the way he is.
And I was talking about your second comment, where you said fl was a semi villain for “manipulating” the ml
Honestly there is literally no room for ml’s character development. There is no going back from sexual assault, abuse, and rape.
People entered this story with the background, he's warned her a thousand times, he has said explicitly how incapable he is of behaving like a regular human BECAUSE HE'S NOT ONE, he's more of a dragon than anything, and any good fantasy story knows dragons are fucking possessive. What do people expect? For him to be all soft and sweet and say "I finally found love, I'm a real boy!" Nah people, there are other really pricks in manhwas that people love for some reason, and they be here hating on the only one that has thrown warnings on all directions. I don't hate him, he's in character through and through. This is the type of character that can get either a happy ending or a massively disastrous one, full of tragedy and pain. And both, if handled properly, could be extremely good.
People really are turning extremely soft and emotional, really not leaving much space for rationality.