Can we talk about this???

Kiorin-san February 17, 2025 7:09 am

Everyone no hate or anything, let's just discuss this cause I've been wondering how these authors/mangas could make these weird shit but turn it into something "creative" (I don't know what to call it)

If you know what I'm talking about then, you guessed it: look the following...
●Omegaverse (omega,alpha,beta,enigma)
●Subverse (sub and dom)
●Guideverse (espers/awakener and guide)
And nowwww...
●Cakeverse (cake and fork)
●Doseverse (drugs and krankes)



For my take, I'm fine with the following three I mean, when I discovered BL I also landed on Omegaverse which was my first verse... it was fine and something... there's mating, alpha has to bite an omega, there's secondary genders, betas are normal peps, fated pairs and stuffs, then enigma can both impregnate alpha, omega, and beta. (I dunno that's what I can remember.)
at first I only read it on Mangas then BL manhwas also adapted the verse I read some of those too. Even Chinese manhua made their omegaverse BL stories which was fine. It felt like omegaverse became universal... every author just used it when they want to make like an uke giving birth and other reasons why they want to use it. Now, omegaverse became over-rated in BL, a lot has been using it, so Japanese mangakas were like, "Let's make something else" so then Subverse was created... When I first read a subverse manga I was like... wow... it felt like kind of similar to omegaverse with how bottoms are like in heat when top just triggered something to them... I can't explain it well, but you'll know it once you read it. But they are different. Just felt similar... cause both end up in a smex action.

Then, of course Korean authors also thought of their own verse... I don't know how long Guideverse has been going on, but I only found out about it when I saw one manhwa that's guideverse. Very different from the two verses... It's about awakeners and stuffs, there's espers who has powers and then they need a guide because their powers are stronger they need someone that will heal them when they're injured. Guide could either hold or kiss with the espers to heal them or what they call it "guidng"... But for the healing to be more effective, they can just BANG then seme will be all healed. I was like, that's something and interesting.

Then, as time goes by every BL used all three verses. But honestly, I haven't seen Korean Manhwa made their own Subverse and Japanese Mangas make their own Guideverse... or maybe it's just me, maybe there's one?? But if it ever happened, then it would likely become overrated like Omegaverse.

With that in mind, all three verses became a hit to us all readers. And authors just kept being more creative... and make nonsense either to make a sense or just stayed nonsense. Cause Japanese mangakas (BL) were like, let's make another verse, but this time, make it ridiculously creative....

BOOM!!! Cakeverse and Doseverse just came out of nowhere because of their cReATiVenESS
Honestly, I no longer know what's going on to the world???? What's next?? Horseverse??? Or unicorn??? Why can't they just stop making more verses for the love of world peace! I hope they just don't make or even add another verse....I mean, there's explanation about how dose and cake verse works so readers won't get lost along the the way of proceeding to read some shit. So I guess, there's that...

But still, I wanna hear what YOU as fujoshi/fudanshi or BL reader whatever the fuck you wanna call yourself as a BL fan, think of all this?? (Cause some doesn't want to be called FujoDanshi)

●What can you say about all these verses??
●Do you think Cake and Dose verse make any sense??
●Why do you think these authors just kept making these weird verses?


*I'm sorry if I sounded like I'm ranting, but trust me I'm not... I'm just curious what others think of this*

Responses
    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 7:41 am

    I’m a hardcore omegaverse preacher will a lot of preferences within the verse but I too have just come across sub/dom being my 2nd fav since to me just is a play in roles and is not that far from omegaverse but instead of pheromones it uses commands etc. Guideverse is one I have yet to really dive deep into and only scratched the surface of and from what I can tell it deals with the dynamic of support intimacy and the control to balance the espers power through guides. (More action base since it entails with hierarchy/ranks in combat)
    Doseverse I have zero understanding of so I’m most curious about that and infact just discovered that it was a thing a few days ago! I’m currently reading a physiological yaoi that is doseverse and it is a bit odd since what they all have in common is the division of whatever group and who they either harm or unify one another.
    This is the first I’ve heard about cakeverse lol so I guess a new verse unlocked
    The more the merrier.
    I guess where all these verses come into fruition is through the authors creativity to expand and top what came before and since all of these are au’s something so far from our current reality it’s fun to think and come up with scenarios/verses that seem impossible yet have that connection to what we’re already familiar with

    No one important:) February 17, 2025 7:44 am

    Wtf is doseverse I’ve never heard of that and I’ve been on here since forever

    Sobbingcyringspitting February 17, 2025 7:44 am

    Gimme recsfor doseverse cuz ive read everythibg but that.

    I think its fun and funny sometimes. These verse all do the samething. Basically createa situation where one side is helpless and so and so plot point can happen and also make sense without having to set up like a crazy scenario. Eg how did the ml and mc meet? Well somebody was in heat and they did the deed js much easier than trying to make a scenario thats exciting but also believable

    The best omegaverse i read was one i didnt even realize it was omegaverse until like 200/300 chapters in.

    Basically the verse lets authors put their characters in specific situations that help move the plot. When i find more details abt these verse worlds or a new verse i love it. I makes me cackle like a mad person everytime

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:01 am
    Wtf is doseverse I’ve never heard of that and I’ve been on here since forever No one important:)

    Nah fr and I thought I tapped into all…guess I’m just a newbie Waaaaa

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:02 am
    Wtf is doseverse I’ve never heard of that and I’ve been on here since forever No one important:)

    Also I found this explanation by Emerjas on AP
    Doseverse (ドースバース) is inspired by Omegaverse. Instead of alphas, betas, and omegas, there are Drugs, Krankes, and Normals. Drugs are people who have the ability to cure those who are sick by coming in contact with them, although there may be side effects just like with medicine. Krankes are people born with a sickly body and are frequently ill. The only way to cure this is by entering into a relationship with a Drug called a bond which is started by the Kranke drinking the Drug's blood. However, if the Drug dies or they leave the relationship, the Kranke gets sick again and will eventually die. Normals can be healed by Drugs when sick, but extended contact with a Drug will lead to addiction and a Normal can even overdose from this. Normals will also get addicted if they drink a Drug's blood.

    pigglypoof February 17, 2025 8:02 am

    Omegaverse and guideverse originated from fanfics, so they've been around for a long long time. I enjoy both and I think there's a lot of space for authors to play around within those two -verses.

    I'm not super into domverse, because that trope could easily be fulfilled by regular dom/sub stuff or omegaverse.

    Cakeverse is kinda fun. I wanna see where ppl take it. In particular, I like this one: https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hunger_relation/

    Haven't read anything on doseverse, but I'm not opposed to it.

    pigglypoof February 17, 2025 8:04 am
    Also I found this explanation by Emerjas on APDoseverse (ドースバース) is inspired by Omegaverse. Instead of alphas, betas, and omegas, there are Drugs, Krankes, and Normals. Drugs are people who have the... Cookievrymb

    It sounds like someone smashed omegaverse and guideverse together.

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:05 am
    Gimme recsfor doseverse cuz ive read everythibg but that. I think its fun and funny sometimes. These verse all do the samething. Basically createa situation where one side is helpless and so and so plot point c... Sobbingcyringspitting

    Do by a chance remember the name? I’d like to read your considered best omegaverse !
    I love how weird and out of reach some verses get and it just fuels my curiosity even more

    Love all kinds of verses since it’s nothing we can possibly experience
    Right verses just spices things up and make things less boring which is why it’s such a hit and grows in popularity

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:08 am
    Omegaverse and guideverse originated from fanfics, so they've been around for a long long time. I enjoy both and I think there's a lot of space for authors to play around within those two -verses.I'm not super ... pigglypoof

    Ooo~~~ imma dip my toes into cakeverse going into with my eyes closed lol

    Same here I’d like some more doseverse reccs since the only one that I’m currently reading I cant really judge the verse on that well.Since it’s psychological base and might be a little controversial

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:08 am
    It sounds like someone smashed omegaverse and guideverse together. pigglypoof

    Right all these verses are just subverses of one another they can all be linked

    pigglypoof February 17, 2025 8:20 am
    Ooo~~~ imma dip my toes into cakeverse going into with my eyes closed lolSame here I’d like some more doseverse reccs since the only one that I’m currently reading I cant really judge the verse on that well... Cookievrymb

    Not too many cakeverse manga/hwa/hua yet. The ones I have seen are basically omegaverse + cannibalism where cakes = omegas and forks = alphas. But the one I linked has a serial killer twist that I think makes it stand out above the others.

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 8:25 am
    Not too many cakeverse manga/hwa/hua yet. The ones I have seen are basically omegaverse + cannibalism where cakes = omegas and forks = alphas. But the one I linked has a serial killer twist that I think makes i... pigglypoof

    Woah….cannibalism? Holy shit hmmm
    I saved what you linked cuzs I wanna at least the whole jist of cakeverse
    Oooohhhh I do love myself a twist !

    Sobbingcyringspitting February 17, 2025 8:56 pm
    Do by a chance remember the name? I’d like to read your considered best omegaverse !I love how weird and out of reach some verses get and it just fuels my curiosity even more Love all kinds of verses since it... Cookievrymb

    Its a korean novel called turning. There should be a webtoon for it too. Hope yoy enjoy it like i did.

    Cookievrymb February 17, 2025 9:03 pm
    Its a korean novel called turning. There should be a webtoon for it too. Hope yoy enjoy it like i did. Sobbingcyringspitting

    Ooo I had that sitting in my (want to read) so i definitely get on that! Thxs