Ohhh Dumb c’moooon…

I know where you're coming from, points of view change the story.

BUT

Nothing changes the fact that Jaegeng is a heartless, clueless, aggressive, disrespectful jerk. And even though Doc Dumb is innocent for his chronological age, he always acts like a good person who deserves to be treated well.

OMG, I never thought of it that way. JJ is basically communicating the only way he knows how - with money. You have a point about Doc Dan - we don't really see him as a gold digger conniving person because we can read his thoughts but his actions are pretty sus without the context.

i’m too lazy to get into all this in detail lmao but:

- jaekyung is the one who propositioned dan first, all those chapters ago way back in season 1. dan at first gave him a very vehement no
- dan avoided jaekyung after their first time together and it was jaekyung who kept harassing him lol. until dan went back to him asking for more money, sure
- jaekyung finds out pretty early on that dan is not/has not in fact been using any of his fuckass money on himself unless you count trying to get himself out of debt + his grandma’s hospital bills + the basic necessities one needs to live as extraneous spending…i think it’s within the first 10-15 chapters that jaekyung sees the absolute state of dan’s apartment and comments on the “stench of poverty” and asks dan how/why he can live the way he does lol. and dan is like “what you want me to give you some sob story so you’ll want to pay me more” or something along those lines (a clear expression that dan does not want the charity and is in fact humiliated at needing it at all). jaekyung also finds out dan is malnourished within that time
- speaking of those: it is to my recollection that dan never asked jaekyung to pay off his debts, pay for his grandma’s treatment, or anything else—dan indeed asked for more pay and/or advances (as needed) but i believe he’d specify in those moments that he’d try to make up for it somehow (might be remembering wrong on this tho). it’s jaekyung who went “above and beyond” to fully cover these things for dan (for his own convenience/gain). like the whole attempted gang rape by the loan sharks episode, i think jaekyung is the one who straight up acknowledges that the amount dan was asking for would never actually get him out of the red lmao
- it’s jaekyung who keeps doubling and tripling down on the transactional nature of their relationship even as dan desires to break out of that (see the birthday gift episode which was a ONE TIME THING??? were there other moments where dan went out of his way to try to gift jaekyung something???). so in my opinion jaekyung shouldn’t be surprised if he attracts gold-diggers and those are the only people who stick around, especially with his shit attitude and sadistic tendencies (not that he’s aware, he’s about as self-aware as a single-cell amoeba)
- jaekyung saw with his own eyes dan quitting despite obviously still needing the money AND trying to pay him back
- jaekyung had to ACTIVELY seek dan out and wear him down before dan got to the point where we are now in the story where he’s offering himself for money again

tl;dr yeah dan being more mature would be incredibly nice BUT i think even if we filter through the story through what information jaekyung had/has access to and what actions jaekyung himself takes based off that info, jaekyung would have to be really fucking dumb and self-centered to come to the conclusion—or at least to STICK to the conclusion—that dan is some conniving gold-digger only out for his money. and jaekyung is dumb and self-centered LOL. but it doesn’t mean he’s right.

i said i’m too lazy and went through bro’s whole discography lmfaooooo

i just feel like gold-digger entails someone who seeks out another person’s money under the guise of a non-transactional/romantic/platonic relationship…where there’s some kind of deliberate two-facedness at play even though the benefactor is seeking something genuine and earnest…even on jaekyung’s end that has simply never been the case, it’s always been sex for money for him. as soon as feefees come into play he shuts em down real quick. it’s why i found it funny when one chapter jaekyung acted outraged abt dan asking for more money, i think he says something about feeling like dan’s treating him like an ATM…i was like yeah bro and you treat him like a sex toy…lmfao

At first,I was confused what is 'Doc Dumb' . I like your comment. It's not selective and one sided.

THANK YOOOOOOOOOOOOU <3 for real, the person who wrote this post needs to reread this whole story! you answered them well and politely!

I agree with what you said about all the ways Jaekyung helped out Dan. But I don't agree with what you said about Dan being after Jaekyung's money. He needed the money in the past for his grandma, but no longer. And money wasn't the real reason why he offered himself for sex. Also, I want to point out that you ARE seeing a more mature version of Dan who IS handling things differently for once :)

I agree with you about the purpose Dan is chasing money because of her grandma and other personal issues, all I was saying is that if we didn’t have the possibility to see his hidden action and read what’s in his mind we would assumed too, like JJ, that he would come back to him for money; in fact, he does and agree to have do sodomy with a violent dickhead like Jerkyoung… I would have loved to read more development before he return to have sex with him, don’t you?

Ahahah thank you! I just tried.. to me doc Dan is between Doc Dumb and Doc Damn (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ and JJ is Joo Jerkyoung

I understand your point, all I was saying is that if we didn’t have the possibility to understand doc Damn action, mind and good intentions, we will too end up assuming he would come back to JJ for money.

Plus, if you remember, he spend tons for expensive gifts for his grandma, that’s why he ask for more money and JJ jokes about his love for money.. (again, because he didn’t know what we know and Damn did not explain himself) .. I didn’t say he hasn’t good intentions, I just say that if we didn’t know what we know, it would be easy to think he is chasing money and could have a coming back if we offer more.

Damn continue to don’t ask him his reasons at all or trying to communicate with him, he just act like a sex toy - and of course JJ appreciate it, he employs him for this if you remember, it was their agreement.


Plus, I defined Damn a money grabber, not a gold digger, and a money grubber is someone who would do anything for money: it’s a matter of fact that he agree for money to do sodomy with a violent dickhead like Jerkyoung… ok his good intentions, but if we didn’t know what we know, it’s easy to think a coming back for money. In fact, it is just what it’s happened… that’s all!

I would also say I’m not team JJ, but daaaaamn this doc is making me nervous ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ

YESSS! you say right!!! It’s kinda sus.. hope this narrative fade out (〜￣△￣)〜 he is a good person but daaaaamn, try to communicate at least and stop spreading your lega for a maniaaaac (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Helllyeah, JJ is a violent jerk !! We all know doc is good, just wanted to see more development

I think I vaguely remember Dan getting his grandma littler things like a scarf and/or hat so she can keep warm, what with the balding from the chemo (though tbh she might’ve had those things already) but I don’t remember him getting her any (extravagant) gifts and I especially don’t remember him ever asking Jaekyung for more money specifically for that purpose. Jaekyung set his initial price at $5,000 I think. Dan asked for more money after their first encounter together only because of his grandma’s hospital bills. And thereafter, as far as I remember, Dan never asked for more money—only advances on payments due to different circumstances. If I’m misremembering, though, steer me towards the chapters where he spends extra on gifts for his grandma and/or asks for more money for that purpose!

And I mean I’d say just as much as Dan never explicitly explains his financial situation (which, again, Jaekyung becomes well aware of pretty early on, it’s as early as chapter 10 in fact), Jaekyung also just never plainly asks about it either. Well, he asks in the same chapter why Dan lives the way he does, but he’s rude about it lmfao, so Dan shuts down. You could say that was a good opportunity for Dan to explain what his life has been like but idk. I don’t blame Dan for not wanting to and again, unless Jaekyung is actually mentally impaired, it’d be incredibly easy to figure out why Dan lives like that and needs the money… And Jaekyung demonstrates throughout season 1 that, for the most part, he doesn’t give much of a fuck about Dan, so I don’t see why Dan would feel the need or desire to open up about it of his own volition.

Anyway yeah I mean I agree that Dan will do anything for money…but I guess I’m confused because your initial post seemed to entail this was a bad thing—or rather, that it was a failing on Dan’s part (or that Jaekyung would see it that way). Dan was in an incredibly desperate financial situation prior to meeting Jaekyung, working 3 jobs and on the verge of homelessness…it’s not so much that he’ll do anything for money, but that he’ll do anything to survive, no? Is that wrong of him to do? And again, at the point we are NOW in the story, it’s Jaekyung who had to repeatedly pressure Dan into coming back with him…Dan clearly rejected Jaekyung when he came to find him even while Jaekyung was offering him money, just a few chapters ago. The first thing Jaekyung started talking about was money, remember? And Dan went as far as ripping the IV from his arm just to get away from Jaekyung and end that conversation LMFAO. So I’ll say again that, even from Jaekyung’s POV, Dan wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) come across as someone who will do anything for money—at least not frivolously. It’s mostly been for the sake of survival, which isn’t bad, just human. Unless, again, you’re Jaekyung I guess lmfao. To which I’d say it’s more an indictment of Jaekyung that he’ll take advantage of someone who’s struggling to survive and then turn around and blame them for doing just that.

. You're right,"IF" we don't know Dan's inner thoughts we would also assume. Jk did not.. or cannot read minds, that's why he thinks ( at first ) that Dan is only after his money like his predecessors ( I'm talking about those men who Jk hired for sex ) that's why he treats Dan like a sex worker that he paid for. Their agreement is all about sex and having sex whenever and wherever jk wants ( it was added because Dan asked for 15000 grand ). Season 1 is all about money and sex - the agreement.
I'm hoping for their development in season 2, especially in Dan's part. Jk is a jerk like you said,I agree. Avoiding Jk is not the answer,I think Dan should approach Jk and tell all. He needs to be firm and communicate clearly to jk how or what he really feels. I hope to see a braver version of Dan. I know there are people who are eager to see sex scenes but it can wait a lil more.
Dan is no longer that scared of Jk unlike in season 1. I hope he will continue to have that kind bravery.

Jaekyung definitely knows that Dan is NOT after his money. We know this because Dan refused his job offer in chapter 60. Jaekyung even said, "I figured if I waved some cash in his face, he'd jump at the chance to return." So even though Jaekyung doesn't have access to Dan's thoughts like we do, he still does not think Dan is after his money. Jaekyung thinks that Dan is offering sex because he wants him to leave afterwards, which is exactly what Dan told him: "So let's have sex. If I repay you with my body you won't have to stay in this backwoods town a second longer." In Season 1, Jaekyung thought Dan was only after his money, but he no longer thinks that. He knows the real reason why Dan made a new deal with him, which is not actually about the money. The money will be used to reduce or eliminate Dan's debt to Jaekyung, which is a benefit to Dan. However, as I said, money was not the true reason for the deal, and Jaekyung knows this.

I agree, more development would have been nice to see before they have sex with each other. However, I think the sex is actually a good thing because it will make Jaekyung even more emotionally attached to Dan. Also, it might not appear this way, but Dan has power and control over Jaekyung through sex—Dan doesn’t need it, but Jaekyung definitely does.

No guys, he doesn't think that Dan is only after his money because as @Akaito said, just as much as Dan never explicitly explains his financial situation, Jaegeng becomes well aware of, pretty early on the precarious housing situation, debts with loan sharks and hospital bills that Dan's life was in. He needed money to live and that's why he paid everything off so that there would be no future interference.

We know that Jaegeng is dumb and clueless. But yes, even from JJ's point of view he knows that Kim Dan is not like his pasts sexual partners who were gold diggers and money grabbers all at once, extravagant and money wasters.

Well, for me it's pretty clear, the way he repeats about Kim Dan liking money is jealousy, because he considers Kim dan is his possession already and unconsciously doesn't want someone else providing him with money.

beautifuly described

Also I think Jaegeng is so in love with him that, even if he really thinks the worst of Dan (because of his past experiences with other boys) he never tells him off *seriously*. Like, he still expects him to stay forever lol

he's like, ***YOU'RE AWFUL, YOU'RE THE WORST. ALSO, YOU'RE GOING TO STAY IN MY APARTMENT WITH ME AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH OUR ROUTINE***. PPl can argue he likes to win, but he was already a champion before Dan.