Do y'all think the author will make Seth forgive Orisis like he has forgiven the grapist f...

blue bird January 28, 2025 7:06 pm

Do y'all think the author will make Seth forgive Orisis like he has forgiven the grapist foreign god? The grapist foreign god is now Seth...friend. Maybe not friend but companion so it's kind of like...... Huh? By having the Seth become friends with the grapist foreign god defeats the purpose of why he was mad at grapist Orsis in the first place.

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    sapphics lover January 28, 2025 7:08 pm

    they arent friends lol, hes an unwanted companion that they need to work with because of a common objective

    blue bird January 28, 2025 7:22 pm
    they arent friends lol, hes an unwanted companion that they need to work with because of a common objective sapphics lover

    To me it seems like they have became friends because in one scene Seth was laughing at the foreign god jokes. Then when the venous snakes came Seth tells "venous snakes" in order for the foreign god to run so he won't get hurt. IOf Seth didn't care then he would have let the snakes bite him. I feel like they have become friend now but in a subtle way.

    Atsux January 28, 2025 7:26 pm

    Well horus raped seth too... so that may be the author's style of writing. Also, Seth's mind is pretty fucked up by now so don't expect something healthy from him. Even then, I don't think you can compare that god's doings with the amount of shit Osiris made Seth go through. So nope. I think Seth really wants Osiris to die and "grapist" can't even begin to describe Osiris :)

    sapphics lover January 28, 2025 8:36 pm
    Well horus raped seth too... so that may be the author's style of writing. Also, Seth's mind is pretty fucked up by now so don't expect something healthy from him. Even then, I don't think you can compare that ... Atsux

    horus didnt willingly and knowingly rape seth from what i remember, so its not the same thing at all

    sapphics lover January 28, 2025 8:42 pm
    To me it seems like they have became friends because in one scene Seth was laughing at the foreign god jokes. Then when the venous snakes came Seth tells "venous snakes" in order for the foreign god to run so h... blue bird

    to me it seems more like coping.
    what osiris did had a much bigger effect on seth because it was betrayal by his own brother, while he had no previous connection to this foreign god guy.
    its not something he forgave in ether case, but more like something he can look past/move on from more easily in the case of the foreign god.

    ~•_/≠|[{Lumia}]|≠_•~ January 28, 2025 8:58 pm

    theyre defo not friends and jesus guy has been forgiven. osiris will also not be forgiven. tahst would make no sense

    Lilac January 29, 2025 12:19 am
    theyre defo not friends and jesus guy has been forgiven. osiris will also not be forgiven. tahst would make no sense ~•_/≠|[{Lumia}]|≠_•~

    Ohhh please let's not call him Jesus tho, can't have The All Mighty name represent that scum
    (just for respect even if u don't believe pls)

    sugarplum January 29, 2025 12:35 am
    horus didnt willingly and knowingly rape seth from what i remember, so its not the same thing at all sapphics lover

    I mean bro, but that's still rape. Sure we all know horus would NEVER willingly do that, but your not gonna just erase that experience from seth's mind. I mean to be honest it does look like Seth has moved on from a lot of that "other" trauma, not forgiven, but moved on because honestly he has bigger things to deal with. Not saying that's healthy but hey, whatcha gonna do. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    sapphics lover January 29, 2025 12:44 am
    I mean bro, but that's still rape. Sure we all know horus would NEVER willingly do that, but your not gonna just erase that experience from seth's mind. I mean to be honest it does look like Seth has moved on f... sugarplum

    im not saying the experience itself didnt happen, but the person i replied too just made it seem like horus was another bad rapist character when it wasnt his fault.

    sugarplum January 29, 2025 12:52 am

    oh and in no way in HELL is seth EVER forgiving osiris. Osiris did A LOT more than just betray seth; he threated anubis' life, he seemingly had an affair with his wife, he neutered seth, he forced him into countless wars, he drugged him, he raped him SEVERAL times, he turned his son against him when he forcfully transitioned him into a God that he doesn't even remember him or their promise, he stitched his son's mouth up and hurt him. Osiris' fate with seth is sealed.
    Also, I don't really like that people think seth "forgave" FG because while he did force himself on him, seth has literally more important things to worry about. So I like to think of it as he's ignoring it or represing it so he doesn't have to think about it. Because honestly if he was constantly think about EVERY bad thing that happened to him in this fucking trauma fest, the story would never move along and it kind of aligned with his character to just "not think about it" for now.
    That's what I think, what about you guys? ( ̄へ ̄)

    I love evan buck ♡ January 29, 2025 3:04 am
    Ohhh please let's not call him Jesus tho, can't have The All Mighty name represent that scum(just for respect even if u don't believe pls) Lilac

    I'm not religious but I honestly agree alot with this

    blue bird January 29, 2025 3:15 am
    oh and in no way in HELL is seth EVER forgiving osiris. Osiris did A LOT more than just betray seth; he threated anubis' life, he seemingly had an affair with his wife, he neutered seth, he forced him into coun... sugarplum

    Thats why I asked the question because the author made the foreign god funny in order for people to like him and forgive him for what he did to Seth unlike how she is doing with Orisis. She didn't have to do that but she did. It seems like Seth has looked past/move from the abuse with the foreign god and now thinks of him as a friend. Yet the foreign god did the same thing as Orsis so it seems like a big contradiction. Both the FG and Orsis abused Seth so why should one be forgiven over the other? I feel like a lot of people have already forgiven the foreign because he is funny. So I feel like the impact of what the foreign guy did to Seth is now gone because he has forgiven him. I just feel like that's a contradiction on the story if that's the biggest reason he was mad at Orisis. I know the question is controversy because people like the foreign god now.

    blue bird January 29, 2025 3:25 am
    I mean bro, but that's still rape. Sure we all know horus would NEVER willingly do that, but your not gonna just erase that experience from seth's mind. I mean to be honest it does look like Seth has moved on f... sugarplum

    I hated that the author made Horus do that because that all what Seth and his wife shippers said. Thats a another contradiction because Harus is suppose to be the only nice one so why would she make him do that?

    sugarplum January 29, 2025 4:01 am
    Thats why I asked the question because the author made the foreign god funny in order for people to like him and forgive him for what he did to Seth unlike how she is doing with Orisis. She didn't have to do th... blue bird

    first, please stop saying that anyone is forgiving him because no one is, not the readers and certainly not seth. Choosing to ignore something and forgiving someone are completely different things. The reason why FG comes off as "being funny" is because he is a FOREIGN GOD who has no understanding of egyptian customs or their Gods, so he's VERY ignorant to seth's eyes which he finds amusing, especially when he has to explain certain things to him. He's not "funny" for shits and giggles, and it's not something random that the writer did, its part of his character because he's a foreign god from a foreign land that does and says shit that may have been fine where he's from but not in Egypt. He is not seth's friend. I thought seth made it VERY obvious that he sees him as a servant, someone convienent, a wallet. Which is why he puts up with him, and its not like he can force FG to leave because he's an actual God and seth is a Demigod now.
    Second, FG and osiris are on two VERY different scales. Yes, they both raped seth; but their situations are not at all the same. Osiris wants to force seth to be his by killing him and dragging him down to Duat. Osiris has done the most unspeakable acts to force seth to love him, to force him down to Duat. Osiris manipulated his family, his own blood son, to get to seth. Sure, FG wants seth to be his lover but he's not FORCING seth to come with him, he's not going after seth's son or doing anything on Osiris' level to even be compared to him. I'm not saying that FG isn't bad or anything and I'm not defending him but he is NOTHING compared to Osiris. If he was, seth would've gone ape shit on him or be absolutely terrified of him as he was when Osiris possessed the priest back on the caravan. FG is more like a bug that keeps buzzing his way in seth's life. And we still don't know who FG is so maybe Mojito is writing around his identity.
    ( I am not trying to start beef, I just wanted to give an analysis. Also, who did you see that are okay with FG? Every time I see him mentioned in the comments, people are annoyed by him or just saying he's hot, nothing about actually liking him?)

    I love evan buck ♡ January 29, 2025 4:47 am

    ao3 would love you

    blue bird January 29, 2025 5:47 am
    first, please stop saying that anyone is forgiving him because no one is, not the readers and certainly not seth. Choosing to ignore something and forgiving someone are completely different things. The reason w... sugarplum

    I feel like just like with all the other yaoi's the uke moves past the abuse with the seme and nothing happens. It like stockholm syndrome for uke's in almost all yaoi's. Seth has magically moved past it and acted like it never happened just like a lot of abused uke's in yaoi. That always happens every time. If Seth can magic move past that abuse than why can't he move past Orisis. I feel like it's a contradiction to have them be this trio when the foreign god abused him too. The author has turn them into a trio where the foreign god is a now friend/companion to Seth. The foreign god is used a comic relief for the story. If the author wanted to she could get rid of his character. I don't like that he abused Seth yet the author turned into them into a trio when're he feels more like a companion now than he did before. To me he should be gone from the story like all there abusers and not treated as comic relief. That why it feels like a contradiction.

    sugarplum January 29, 2025 6:36 am
    I feel like just like with all the other yaoi's the uke moves past the abuse with the seme and nothing happens. It like stockholm syndrome for uke's in almost all yaoi's. Seth has magically moved past it and ac... blue bird

    I completely get you. I haaate it that rape is such a common trope in bl and how mc never really deals with it, they sort of just "move on from it" and its never addressed. But there seems to be a reason for it here because so many things are happening at once and he is constantly having to do all these thing and being put in these impossible scenarios that I genuinely think he just forgot about it or something after a while. But I can see why its frustrating having all these guys who hurt him all around him. Honestly, I want to get a scene where they finally acknowledge when horus raped him so that he can finally explain, but then if that were to happen horus would have to bring up the mirror and nephthys and it would lead to a BAAAD situation. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    Whoelsetherealone February 1, 2025 4:50 pm
    I feel like just like with all the other yaoi's the uke moves past the abuse with the seme and nothing happens. It like stockholm syndrome for uke's in almost all yaoi's. Seth has magically moved past it and ac... blue bird

    Maybe this will give you an other view of the situation because that is how I read it:

    I speak from from experience here and I know this will sound weird but... One can laugh with a person who raped you if you are forced to live around them for a while without necessary forgiven them, neither forgetting what happen to you nor what they did to you.

    Your mind has this ability to tune out the trauma response here and there, so you don't have to live 24/7 on edge, especially if you are in the environment that is associated with said trauma. Think of soldier on a battlefield that still can find ways to laugh from time to time, despite bombs exploding in the background.

    Brain cannot be in panic mode constantly, it is not made to be and it can't function in that state very long. So the brain has a magic trick, called "dissociation" where for moments, it will dissociate itself from the trauma, to have you be able to function normally, especially when you have other matter to attempt or if the trauma source is still around. People often interpret that as you having moved on, while in fact you are just coping to not loose your shit.

    And public really need to be educated on that because this type of argument is so often used against victims when they finally have the mental strength to move forward: "you seemed fine, though until now around them, you even laugh at their joke, so why suddenly claim you were traumatized?" This is a genuine question that is fair to ask, but in reality it is so invalidating for the victims.

    So it is not that he forgave FG for what he did.... Seth just has other shit to deal with, and he is stuck with this guy anyway. For survival purpose, he has to tune out of the stress that the memory of that night might caused him. Which at time, can make you have pleasant conversation with said person without realizing it. (And to have lived that, it kind of makes you feel sad afterward, because you have glimpse of what it would be, if the bad stuff hadn't occurred. That is also how abuse relationship are maintained... but that is another topic)

    Plus Seth has spent thousand years pretending he was not raped by Osiris. It is his default functional mechanism at this point. Not that it is healthy. But they can't kill him, and he is too strong to be gotten rid off, despite trying many times. And they are heading in the same direction. So it is bond to happen that from time to time, Seth will dissociate a bit and end up laughing along with FG, even if he hates his guts.

    Also what FG did to Seth probably had a slightly less emotional impact that the betrayal of Osiris. Because one is just a rando he had not put his trust in, while the other was a brother he fought a war for.
    And since I was in somewhat similar circumstance in term of social dynamism (family member versus stranger), I can assure you it truly doesn't have the same mental weight.

    But I won't trauma dump more than that. I just hope you can see that maybe, this isn't really a friendship building here... At the very least, I personally can't read it that way. And I won't reject your interpretation. Maybe you could be right, and they are indeed getting friendly. Only the story will be able to tell.

    sugarplum February 1, 2025 10:02 pm
    Maybe this will give you an other view of the situation because that is how I read it:I speak from from experience here and I know this will sound weird but... One can laugh with a person who raped you if you a... Whoelsetherealone

    I really liked your explaination, it was much more in depth than what I could say but I'm so sorry you had to go through something like that.

    sugarplum February 1, 2025 10:06 pm
    I really liked your explaination, it was much more in depth than what I could say but I'm so sorry you had to go through something like that. sugarplum

    *explanation