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damn what did mc did to ml to warrant "deserving" this revenge
Unlike Raymond who wanted to have a silent life within that school ground but was humiliated purposely by those men. Raymond did not provoked those men but those men chose Raymond because they found him unlucky and interesting. Jiwook ( if I'm not mistaken ) have anger issues. He found ml pretty because of ml's pretty face. He approached ml but got angry because ml ignored him. He shouted at him. Ml offered an alcoholic drink to mc that made mc unconscious. He put something in that drink. He brought mc to his house and started to humiliate him while mc was unconscious.
ive read that part of the manhwa but how is that any basis for revenge and inflicting a lifetime of suffering?
I found that shallow too. I think there is a deep reason that we still don't know. Well,I haven't read the novel version of that manhwa,so I cannot give you full details
The reason for his revenge is that the MC r*ped and made his friends do it to.. This takes place when they we're in middle or high school can't remember well MC also humiliated him a lot. They also made a video of him getting r*ped and sent it to his mother which caused her to end up hospitalized.. He was also locked in a I believe a laundry room tied up with vibs in him guess the MC steeped out for a bit and completely forgot about him leaving him their all alone eventually he was found by a janitor I think and was hospitalized ... But hope this explains it a bit.. Theirs more but since I also read this at night I kept falling in and out of sleep so I may have skipped or missed a few parts of the novel
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OH (⊙…⊙ ) ig that is pretty justified then. and eye for an eye. i prob wont read this tho since i like catharsis and power imbalances evening out thru out the story... which is not what this story is apparently...
Mc and his friends raped ml when they were in high school? Ml wanted revenge. Mc did not recognize ml?
Thank you for that spoiler
It is in a way justified even tho I have mixed feelings about it..but that's fine if you don't read it.. Your actually saving your mental health unlike me who just went in without giving it a second thought in to what I was about to read.. ╥﹏╥
Yea him and friends and I believe it was in high school.. Yea MC lost his memorie do to a big fight that happens when he was still young they imply that their was more to the fight but the translation made it hard for me to understand what was going on.. If you read the 2nd side story it will be talking about how the ML plans his revenge with another guy who insists on taking revenge and helps him plan it to. This takes place at a hospital were his mom is hospitalized and reunites with the MC because of his hospitalization to this also happens a year later after all that's happens to ML..
I'm sorry if I couldn't fully explain or make sense in parts.. I do most of my reading at night and sometimes I fall in and out of sleep.. (￣∇￣")
No,you explained it well. I just want to make sure.
So, ml's revenge has a really deep reason. He did not do it for fun. His mother was hospitalized too,so I can understand his hatred. Well,I will keep reading that manhwa to know MC's reaction after his memories will comeback.
Yea it wasn't for fun but as he gets his revenge it's just fun at some point to him.. I hope manhwa doesn't leave out a lot of details to much..
look, as chronically online person who read a ton of toxic red flag "dark romances", ill take this type of story any day over than some smut-filled rapist apologist romanticized story where a rapist becomes a good lover bc he falls for mc, whom he hitherto treated as a sex toy, and it becomes wholesome bc the mc "fixed" him. at least in this story, jerome only raped raymond bc he was driven crazy with a need for revenge and lacked autonomy bc he was under the thumb of hugh's family. and even then, it only lasted one arc, in which he came to respect mc's strong will to not break and perseverance, which was the groundwork for his future actions helping mc. for the rest of the arcs, since he wasn't compelled to, he doesn't SA mc again until mc is willing, and made no acts to appear to care about him until the most critical moments. he legitimately has no power and authority to wield, and that one time he helps mc at the risk of exposing himself, he actually suffers the consequences and is drugged and made a spectacle (and at that point, Raymond still despised jerome and contributed in humiliating jerome). and why this is such a significant act is bc jerome was actually treated the same way as raymond, and this is the basis for his revenge, so he basically willingly risked undergoing the same trauma again and sacrificing the revenge he worked on for ~15 years just to help raymond. and this isnt the only selfless act he did for mc. novel jerome is 10x more compelling and complex than your typical black flag ml will ever be. but if u want cliche powerful capricious rapist ml who submits to mc after hitherto forcing him to his whims, this just isn't for u. if u want a cathartic revenge story, ultimately it is (Raymond gets his revenge and so does jerome) but it is also a very gritty and nuanced exploration of Stockholm syndrome, depicting realistically to a degree the self-gaslighting, self-hatred, resignation, and emotional dependency of the victims.
let me mention as well, Raymond doesn't fall for jerome even after his enacting revenge twice and knowing jerome is a victim too and ONLY after jerome saves his life, and this was the catalyst to choosing love over hatred for the sake of his own survival. yes he has stockholm syndrome, but it was neither affection or sympathy, it was just a parasitic emotional bond based on trauma. after raymond tried to kill jerome at the end of the first arc, he actually managed to kill him in the third but he immediately revived him not bc of love but bc of said emotional bond. it was then he realized he couldn't live without "the boys" even when he desperately wanted to kill them. he couldn't move on from them either, so the only way to survive in the world with them was to give up on revenge, suppress hatred, and resign to love instead. after more than a decade of hate. it had nothing to do with "he's changed to someone I can love so I should give him a chance". (and if u think this is stupid, jerome thinks so as well. he is the one to reignite raymond's hatred.) the author makes it very fucking clear that what jerome did is unforgivable and even if he beg and save mc it would not rectify his wrongs, and this is reflected in jerome's actions when he keeps a distance from mc even after mc falls for him and only tries to seduce him/be openly affectionate and kidnap him to a remote inn to live together away from reality when mc loses his memories of his trauma (ngl was my fav part of the novel cuz it provided a lot of insight on jerome's character). and when mc recovers his memories, jerome becomes cold and wants to run away again. anyway, that's why I think this is better than the stories where the narrative pussyfoots around making rapist MLS not quite irredeemable bc they were raised into an arrogant POS, had a sad backstory, and/or the mc "enjoyed" the sex.
ill also say, that the other characters (hugh & George) and (nicholas & Christine) actually exemplify what happens to a unromanticized relationship based on stockholm syndrome if the victim didn't have the necessary mental resilience and the abuser doesn't see their lover as equals and still wanted to control them. hugh remain an abusive scum even after falling for George, who in turn became as twisted as hugh and just gaslighted himself to accept being his pet and sex toy bc of love. the victim of the second couple couldn't gaslight themselves into being happy, but he also couldn't reconcile his love and hatred. so he chose to go down the path of death. (raymond & jerome) only end up together bc raymond is mentally strong enough and jerome is just a traumatized normal person who loves raymond more than his own life but is completely aware of his own sins. all in all, if u can handle these types of dark thriller stories, this is for u; u can criticize the literary tropes themselves, but u cant immediately dismiss the story as "bad" just for having them if u haven't even read it.