I liked it ! It wasn't a bad story, why is everyone so dense about it ?? Btw naa please...

ASTRoha January 25, 2025 10:10 am

I liked it ! It wasn't a bad story, why is everyone so dense about it ??



Btw naa please don't call him "mister" ( ̄∇ ̄")

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    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 10:33 am

    i saw your comment on my feed and this is to answer your question, not to argue ~
    it wasn’t a bad story. but it played with the stereotypes too closely. it’s a safe but cliche cinderella yaoi, that had potential but went in a straight line rather up upwards. the ml was a rich ceo, cold and business focused and was emotionally constipated. while the mc was hardworking for his family, wore his heart on his sleeve, and quickly forgiving to a mean ml. it wasn’t amazing but it wasn’t all terrible either. the miscommunication was bad because the only thing at stake was mc in the relationship not both people. his punishment was overly cruel… to shut him out/blame the drugging on innocent mc/rape him/only to grovel once he realized how precious and trusting mc was when it was always that way. people wanted ml to grovel appropriately, and get a taste of what mc felt during their whole contract but the chase arc was short lived and not satisfying

    and now this is just my opinion but i don’t think people are dense by criticizing a story on what could’ve been done better for them. if you personally like the story it won’t make you a better or more understanding reader, it just means it suits your personal taste more than others

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 11:09 am

    I'm sorry but I'm not sure you know about my personnal taste better than I do ? All the famous bl nowadays have all the same shitty-plot "trash ml, pitiful mc, rape, redemption arc and happy ending ". I agree to say that this story was a more than cliché Cinderella plot obviously but are all people saying that this ml can be compared to all those shitty black-flag mls ?? Yeah I agree, he raped ml when this one was drugged but he obviously felt bad right after and apologized when they met again. Was he ever bad to mc appart from the fact that he didn't reciprocate his feelings and said harsh words while being obviously in love ?? Ml was decent and can not be compared to a red flag si I'm not calling anything "redemption arc" it was more like a misunderstanding arc and when did mc "quickly forgave" ml ?? Did we read the same story ?? Mc didn't want to accept to ml feelings because not because ml was bad to him but because he couldn't bare the fact that ml didn't reciprocate his feelings and THAT is what in found dumb with the fact that ml did not clearly expressed his love to mc till they got back together. It sure wasn't perfect. Ofc. But art is good, facial expressions where more than on point and there is NO red-flag ml and mc is not a whimp either. So for me it was good, very cliché,yes, but good. Because nowadays it's hard top find a story without red-flag ml.

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 11:16 am

    Also I sure felt bad for mc, he didn't deserve any bad things that happened to him. But does feeling for him means I must hate on the ml ? I don't think ml did all those things, did he ? Hé helped him more than anyone lol

    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 11:36 am
    I'm sorry but I'm not sure you know about my personnal taste better than I do ? All the famous bl nowadays have all the same shitty-plot "trash ml, pitiful mc, rape, redemption arc and happy ending ". I agree t... ASTRoha

    i was in no way disregarding your taste? i didn’t mean it in a condescending way. i only meant that people criticizing have different preferences and expectations, neither person are right or wrong since enjoyment is subjective…

    im not sure where this argument is coming from when stories don’t have to be compared in order to reflect on writing. i actually enjoyed this story too, and only felt that ml should’ve suffered longer that’s all. just because he’s better than other “black flags” it doesn’t mean his actions can’t be scrutinized either? nowhere did i mention black, red, green, yellow flags either that’s a disservice to the complexity lol. mls or mc’s can do bad things and can be worse or better than others. having discourse about them is normal even if he’s better or worse than the ones other stories. but that wasn’t even a point i made. i think you got overly sensitive about me providing an answer to your question and took it to heart when it wasn’t like that at all. i don’t care what you feel about the story since it doesn’t affect me, its great you have this opinion! i only wanted to provide a summary of peoples outlooks since it was asked up. no reader’s taste is above another’s for disliking or liking this. my only argument was that people aren’t dense- the story wasn’t as novel to them as it was to you and that’s okay. im literally only saying readers don’t bad taste or can’t understand a story just because you did. no shade or hate to you. im sure ur taste is wonderful… ?

    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 11:42 am
    Also I sure felt bad for mc, he didn't deserve any bad things that happened to him. But does feeling for him means I must hate on the ml ? I don't think ml did all those things, did he ? Hé helped him more tha... ASTRoha

    when did i imply any of this about you

    but also you can want an ml held accountable. him being “better” doesn’t mean the stuff he did gets passes since other bottoms had it worse. in fact other worse ml’s do get more hate and attention… so im kinda confused again on why mild opinions about this ml getting called out is somehow taking away that this story was well loved by a majority of people- even ones who criticize it

    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 11:45 am

    also, art and facial expressions effect story telling but it doesn’t mean the writing can’t lack in certain aspects too

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 11:55 am

    Yes I'm sorry, It really ticked me for nothing when you mentioned my tastes ╥﹏╥ I shouldn't have said "people are dense" when obviously gave different opinions. It just really suprised me too see that so many comments not liking the story when it actually wasn't that bad. There was a lot of positive points but people tend to focus on the negative that's what I was trying to say by "tense" but that's actually a bad way to say it. And honestly I still don't understand why is ml hated.

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 12:00 pm
    Yes I'm sorry, It really ticked me for nothing when you mentioned my tastes ╥﹏╥ I shouldn't have said "people are dense" when obviously gave different opinions. It just really suprised me too see that so ... ASTRoha

    He didn't expresse his feelings honestly and that's why I'm not a fan but he is not

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 12:00 pm
    He didn't expresse his feelings honestly and that's why I'm not a fan but he is not ASTRoha

    *He is not bad

    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 12:09 pm
    Yes I'm sorry, It really ticked me for nothing when you mentioned my tastes ╥﹏╥ I shouldn't have said "people are dense" when obviously gave different opinions. It just really suprised me too see that so ... ASTRoha

    it’s okay ╥﹏╥ i thought my opinion came off respectful and neutral so i was shocked at the reaction lmao. and the story isn’t horrible in comparison to other yaois but you have to approach the dislike assuming other people don’t read the same toxic stories as you either + expected better since he started of as more as a good guy too. he disappointed people after being known as this caring (pretend) lover, who had a soft spot for mc. only for it to be tarnished because of his own assumption and refusal to listen to him. i think people approached this story with high standards so when he ended up like other mls who rape as punishment, it changed their view of him permanently. since were other ways to do so yk, considering he’s known as this rational and normal businessmen

    again to each their own, he’s not the worst but he definitely got away with what he did with minimal consequence. not expecting jail time lol, but getting ignored longer and him suffering severely would’ve been nice because i like to see a submissive top

    ASTRoha January 25, 2025 12:40 pm
    also, art and facial expressions effect story telling but it doesn’t mean the writing can’t lack in certain aspects too levipleasecallmeback

    I didn't say it was perfect, of course not, and I agree that art is not all obviously ?? But it's not because it could have been better on many aspects that the end result is bad is it ? Personally I won't be the one at the end of a story to criticize how it could have been better because we got what we got and I'm not an author. People have the right to share their opinions but we should all remember to respect the author work and not just complain like some like to do. Btw I also like submissive seme ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ and I was honestly more pissed of with uke not saying anything when he could have rather with seme. He clearly let seme assume things and was provocative on PURPOSE to make seme angry and I HATE when they do that. We shouldn't always blame the seme even though r*pe is NEVER AN OPTION to make things better. So both are to blame for me, not everyone would agree. Maybe for some they where disappointed with seme but I was even more disappointed with uke because better than submissive seme, I like power uke and he turned out to be not as bold as I thought but yeah ... It still turned pretty well I guess, he wasn't all cries and tears. So for me the time he ignored seme despite knowing they both had feelings for each other felt very long. Plus, the story clearly implied that uke didn't blame him for the r*pe, but for not reciprocating his feelings which I find quite childish.

    levipleasecallmeback January 25, 2025 10:25 pm
    I didn't say it was perfect, of course not, and I agree that art is not all obviously ?? But it's not because it could have been better on many aspects that the end result is bad is it ? Personally I won't be t... ASTRoha

    okay again i wasn’t making assumptions about you, i gave my opinion too. im not trying to pick a fight omg. your original statement was how the art and facial expressions add to this story and for me even with those great qualities it still lacked imo. in fact i think those traits made up for the webtoon being cliche and mild. pretty privilege with stories is so real lmao. and even if it doesn’t for you (with this specific story) there’s no problem this is just how i see it. a difference in opinion for one webtoon isn’t generalizing ALL your views or me saying your opinion is wrong. im just trying to make conversation

    this isn’t on purpose but i disagree on your next opinion ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ i don’t find it disrespectful to complain without productive feedback. it’s different if people stalk the author and harass them, but having an opinion that’s bold and harsh isn’t bad. same thing with food yk, you can absolutely hate something while it could be a delicacy to others. and with mc provoking ml, i supported him after all he went through. he was never harsh to ml until that moment i think, and gave him a taste of his own medicine but then ended up paying for it :/. its not like he intended to hide the flash drive forever and his fears of getting abandoned got to him. if his own dad can sell him out- what stops the boyfriend from feeling any different? at least thats my train of thought. im personally tired of bottoms who don’t fight back and take all the terrible treatment since they believe they deserve it, so it was satisfying seeing him stand up for himself even if it was out of spite. it may have been destructive but even after getting iced out of ml’s life he was still getting blamed and not listened too

    the cruelty was unforgettable to me since mc was struggling already and needed someone to be there for him

    ASTRoha January 26, 2025 12:43 am
    okay again i wasn’t making assumptions about you, i gave my opinion too. im not trying to pick a fight omg. your original statement was how the art and facial expressions add to this story and for me even wit... levipleasecallmeback

    I was not trying to pick a fight either don't worry sorti if that sounded rude. I understand your point but I guess I still believe ml wasn't bad to mc either, was he ? They were not actual boyfriends at that point of the story and mc knew their relation was based on a contract. Ml was GOOD mc ! Fight back ?? Fight back what ? Was ml abusive and mean ? I really don't think mc shitty life has to do with ml. I do believe if he just gave the USB stick to ml, things couldn't have turned this bad for both of them. He was scared that ml would leave him ?? But he litteraly knew it was gonna happen one day or another. But he prefered to hide things from ml knowing it could let to misundertandings. And when ml asked why, he said " It's not what you think" and NOTHING else(╯°Д °)╯╧╧ Bro ...speak up ! You love him so don't let him misundertand you !!! Argh no...I really can't take when a character let the misundertandings happen and act pitiful afterwards. I love when ukes stand up for themselves too. But here it's not ml who made him pitiful... but his love for him and also his f*cked-up life. Ml apologized for how he reacted but Mc clearly wanted to make ml suffere for not reciprocating his feelings so he left which is quite childish. But I'm not saying he shouldn't have, it's good he did, because in a way thanks for that ml realized (too late) his feelings.

    ASTRoha January 26, 2025 12:56 am
    I was not trying to pick a fight either don't worry sorti if that sounded rude. I understand your point but I guess I still believe ml wasn't bad to mc either, was he ? They were not actual boyfriends at that ... ASTRoha

    But you know...everybody can understand a story differently so I'm not saying you're wrong, I do understand your point and wanted to explain mine ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I quiet appreciate we can share opinions