Non zwro sum is repelling coz...

purupurupururi January 24, 2025 2:08 pm

How far did they fo? He lost his senses,how to eat,wash,dress.... They don't make romance anymore,just psychological thriller yaois and fans eat them up each time. Its just straight up traumatizing, I don't get the mental state of these authors and readers romanticizing rapes and tortures and gore

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    MangaSanctuary January 24, 2025 3:31 pm

    I don't know either about this one. Some say it's a well written plot despite the toxicity, for others it's not better than other rapey titles... Since I don't feel reading it, it's hard to give a fair opinion on this, sorry...

    Though, I doubt some of these works deserve the titles of 'psychological thriller bls', as they're for the most not well written enough. Btw there's no romance so where's the bl in there?
    Characterisation and motives of the characters are badly described or are totally absent, the focus is to showcase degrading porn in all aspects. There's no real justification to the rape, torture and brutality displayed in there.
    The universe these characters evolute is also unrealistic ; social interactions are not credible and there's no retributions nor regrets of any sort for the crimes committed in these stories. Works like No Reason, The Bad Life, Reverse Thinking, Yian's Binding... are sadly, sad exhibition of trash porn. Yes, their contents is questionable, questionable as there's no real point in these aside showing gruesome porn. Despite this, some authors will feel entitled to produce such stories as long as they find an audience.
    We're certainly witnessing a 'shift' of the bl genre into something even more violent.

    purupurupururi January 25, 2025 6:12 am
    I don't know either about this one. Some say it's a well written plot despite the toxicity, for others it's not better than other rapey titles... Since I don't feel reading it, it's hard to give a fair opinion ... MangaSanctuary

    some say its not the author,its the audience aka the demand, and to some point,I agree

    MangaSanctuary January 25, 2025 1:11 pm
    some say its not the author,its the audience aka the demand, and to some point,I agree purupurupururi

    Yeah, demandes has definitely somethinh to do about the existence of such stuffs, and since there'll bé people who eats everything... So we get to this point. But is it a good or bad thing?

    purupurupururi January 25, 2025 2:01 pm
    Yeah, demandes has definitely somethinh to do about the existence of such stuffs, and since there'll bé people who eats everything... So we get to this point. But is it a good or bad thing? MangaSanctuary

    the thing is this normalizes toxic romanticism , so ppl who idolize their fav characters after reading piece after piece would gradually unknowingly begin adopting their ways and find it completely normal, they won't even realize what they did wrong,and these type of sickos do exist,many.

    MangaSanctuary January 25, 2025 8:58 pm
    the thing is this normalizes toxic romanticism , so ppl who idolize their fav characters after reading piece after piece would gradually unknowingly begin adopting their ways and find it completely normal, they... purupurupururi

    You see, I agree that fictions like this are indeed toxic and harmful for the human's mind bc readers who like to read these stories will be numb and desensitivized to violent contents, therefore to violence in the long run. They'll develop brain rot. Porn is invasive for the mind, and brutal porn even more.
    The risks to be numb to fictional violence is the same as for any other addictions: seeking even more violents and since it's yaoi, morbid rape porn etc. Did you see that in The Bad Life and lastly, Reverse Thinking, the authors wanted to introduce paraphilic sexuality (bestiality) in these stories? Yes, they added it in the novel, and if not for the protests of Korean readers, people here may see a dog do the thing with the mc. This is crazy, and it's normal to question the mental health of authors in this case.
    The risks for readers is also to develop a lack of empathy when they see bullying, abuse or injustice and not assist the victims of mistreatments. Thoug I don't think they'll go as far as becoming rapist themselves ; let's not forget that most yaoi readers are girls/women.

    MangaSanctuary January 25, 2025 9:17 pm

    These people may become twisted and messed up, capable of defending rapists and offenders when they shouldn't

    purupurupururi January 26, 2025 4:13 am
    These people may become twisted and messed up, capable of defending rapists and offenders when they shouldn't MangaSanctuary

    Or as you said most of the audience are women, if they suffer from something equal, maybe their bfs or close ones under the pretense of romance they will come to believe them

    MangaSanctuary January 26, 2025 11:52 am
    Or as you said most of the audience are women, if they suffer from something equal, maybe their bfs or close ones under the pretense of romance they will come to believe them purupurupururi

    Tbh I really don't know about that but yeah violent porn contents like this tend to desensitivize readers and suppress empathy in them if they ever had any.
    By the same way, maybe it's easier for a psychopath to manipulate these people?

    I believe many women have a disturbing attraction to men who prove themselves to be harmful to women (criminals, serial killers who target women...) ; this is morbid fascination.
    Some readers claim themselves to have been victims of SA, rape, and reading rape stories as a way to cope with their traumas, though that's just weird to me.
    If you're really a rape survivor, you can certainly read rape plots, but you'll choose to read those that make sense, and not the kind like No Reason or Reverse Thinking that are simply exhibition of nonsensical trash porn.
    Anyhow, people will - in my opinion, give all kinds of excuses to read their porn. In the end, that's their problem if they want to have brain rot.

    MangaSanctuary January 26, 2025 12:13 pm

    The problem for us as readers who want to read Boys Love, is to find more and more contents like this that are extrem in term of violence and sexual abuse while offering no romance, no real context/motives, justifications to such cruel behaviors, no retribution, resilience nor evasion for the spirit...
    Some yaoists dropped bl entirely bc they hate how bl turns out to be.
    There will still be people who enjoy and seek this kind of fictions, though same as for you who find Non Zero Sum repulsive, these aren't for me.

    purupurupururi January 26, 2025 1:48 pm
    Tbh I really don't know about that but yeah violent porn contents like this tend to desensitivize readers and suppress empathy in them if they ever had any.By the same way, maybe it's easier for a psychopath to... MangaSanctuary

    my friend is dating a man, who treats women as objects,even the women in her friend circle including me, folllows Tate's principles like a bible,. We have all collectively warned her to stay away from her but.... infatuations like these are dangerous

    MangaSanctuary January 26, 2025 3:50 pm
    my friend is dating a man, who treats women as objects,even the women in her friend circle including me, folllows Tate's principles like a bible,. We have all collectively warned her to stay away from her but..... purupurupururi

    People like Andrew Tate are, in some way, fascinating in the sense that they stick to their 'principles' till the end and are so loud about it, even if what they say are pills of Bullshits, that's how they can attract women like your friend. She must be someone impressionable and needs a strong male figure to rely on, because either she's a female version of Tate, or a person who didn't built their own system of trust (in themself) and has trouble judging men.
    Yeah, that's tough... I wish you courage and hope she'll wake up ; men like that are not good for women.

    purupurupururi January 26, 2025 5:13 pm
    People like Andrew Tate are, in some way, fascinating in the sense that they stick to their 'principles' till the end and are so loud about it, even if what they say are pills of Bullshits, that's how they can ... MangaSanctuary

    on the contrary,she's shy and soft spoken, well from the pov sophomore, its nice getting showered with attention. The thing is just b4 her he used to pursue another friend of mine,after she rejecting him,he approached her and......the first thing he said was,"Wow,you are so white'' and I came to know he likes white women coz he has a 'pink genitalia' fetish. What a sicko

    MangaSanctuary January 26, 2025 9:29 pm
    on the contrary,she's shy and soft spoken, well from the pov sophomore, its nice getting showered with attention. The thing is just b4 her he used to pursue another friend of mine,after she rejecting him,he app... purupurupururi

    This guy is disguting for behaving like this towards women, especially if the girls are from the same group of friends, and he's not liking them for the good reasons.
    Tell her to ditch him cause' Andrew Tate's fanboys, the redpillers, are likely to end up in prison at least once. Most are abusive and beat their women, look at the testimonies on internet