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Fujodanshi January 23, 2025 3:21 pm

Keith was a saint. That's all I'm gonna say.

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    143ILY January 23, 2025 3:22 pm

    Wow i cant believe he make Keith a saint
    I wonder how much I will hate him
    (But still reading this cause im all for the drama)

    cheesygarlicbread January 23, 2025 4:17 pm

    yiiiiiiiiikes

    kishibe January 23, 2025 5:31 pm

    bro ain't no way, this man is gonna be a bastard???

    chocobuun January 24, 2025 9:21 pm

    It depends on what you value or hate more.

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    If you hate violence more, you’ll probably hate Chase more than keith. If you hate rape more, you’ll hate Keith more than chase.

    Cons: chase is violent and crazy (which is a norm in red flag stories lmao)

    Pros: He’s very against rape.
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    Keith

    Pros: not really violent or crazy

    Cons: rapist, didn’t give basic respect
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    On a level, I would say he’s definitely less violent/crazy than MLs from Roses and champagne, code name Anastasia, non zero sum, sadistic beauty side story BL, etc.

    Worse than any green flags, but tame if you’re judging on the red flag scale. If you’re used to the violent aspect, then this isn’t 100% one person beating on the other and the mc being weakly hit. The MC can also fight back and does so to the point they got in a fist fight lmao.

    Fujodanshi January 24, 2025 10:33 pm
    It depends on what you value or hate more.Spoilers:-------If you hate violence more, you’ll probably hate Chase more than keith. If you hate rape more, you’ll hate Keith more than chase.Cons: chase is viole... chocobuun

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    I appreciate the analysis, but you might want to revisit the novel because Chase does force himself on Josh. Of course, that doesn’t excuse Keith either. My first comment was meant to be for funsies, but there’s still some truth to it. Keith also forced himself on Yeonwoo at one point, which is absolutely unforgivable. On top of that, he cheated and tried to downplay what happened to Yeonwoo in the earlier chapters. Except he never hit him, which is something Chase does—along with everything else. Honestly, both of these Alphas are just toxic and completely unlovable.

    chocobuun January 24, 2025 10:41 pm
    Spoilers...I appreciate the analysis, but you might want to revisit the novel because Chase does force himself on Josh. Of course, that doesn’t excuse Keith either. My first comment was meant to be for funsie... Fujodanshi

    Can I ask what the context of that part was in the novel?

    Anyways I know chase isn’t a saint or a regular green flag. I’m mainly focusing on the comparison between the two specific characters and how depending on the reader’s preference one can have a totally different opinion on the other.

    Personally, I don’t mind the violent aspect as long as the other party can fight back as well or doesn’t mind it, so it feels like it’s on similar strength levels or the actual enemies to lovers story where they try to kill each other lol. I wouldn’t recommend this story for those who only like pure green flags, but I would recommend it for those who have seen worse red flag stories or those who enjoy actual enemies to lovers including fighting

    Fujodanshi January 25, 2025 12:05 am
    Can I ask what the context of that part was in the novel?Anyways I know chase isn’t a saint or a regular green flag. I’m mainly focusing on the comparison between the two specific characters and how dependi... chocobuun

    Rape, violence, cheating—none of that is okay. It doesn’t matter if the “other party” can fight back; it still doesn’t make it right. Personally, I prefer green flags. My standards are so high that even the typical green flags struggle to make the cut. That said, I’ve read plenty of dark and messed-up stories. I just read them. I don’t get super emotional about it. But that doesn’t mean I’m cool with what happens in them or excuse it by saying, “Oh, it’s just fiction.” No, fiction or not, that stuff shouldn’t be treated like it’s okay. It’s fine to read about it, but defending abusers? That’s where I draw the line.

    chocobuun January 25, 2025 12:33 am
    Rape, violence, cheating—none of that is okay. It doesn’t matter if the “other party” can fight back; it still doesn’t make it right. Personally, I prefer green flags. My standards are so high that ev... Fujodanshi

    That’s cool and all but are you just discussing your opinion now? I was mainly talking about the characters and their differences, then added some of my opinion at the very end, which was just a personal thing of my own view for what I read. I wasn’t judging your opinion nor defending and saying those other stuff were okay. I also am not planning to judge your own preferences for what you read lol. Dunno if you thought I was trying to defend anything or if you just are saying your own piece separate from my own reply