I thought this is a cute ass love story but the uke is super annoying why do he have to as...

It wasn't about sex, it was about being strung along, being lied to, being dishonest and about Andy pretending to be someone else just to please his idea of Nathan, and by doing so, he also ignored Nathan as a person and didn't really see him for who he really is.

I agree TTwTT pestering your 20 y.o uni boyfriend p, who’s like 7 or 8 years younger than you, has absolutely zero sexual experience and it’s nervous about it ... that’s weird behaviour no matter how you look at it

Well said boyfriend kept saying that he has a lot of experience and that he wants to have sex with you and then tells you to wait and then is into it and then runs away - we know the backstory and the truth, Nathan does not, he only knows what Andrew told him

While I understand what you're saying about Nathan being lied to and feeling misled, I don’t think that justifies his behavior of forcing Andy to make a choice like that. It’s one thing to be upset over dishonesty, but it’s another to demand an ultimatum about something as complex as intimacy, especially when Andy is nervous and inexperienced. Nathan is 8( or so?) years older and has had more life experience, so it’s not fair to put that kind of pressure on someone who’s still figuring things out.

Also, while Nathan may have been hurt by Andy’s actions, asking someone to choose between sex or leaving the relationship isn’t healthy communication, especially when both partners are still learning about each other. It’s important to approach these things with patience and understanding, not ultimatums

Girl ok, I see your point. Andy is wrong for being dishonest and manipulative, pretending to be someone he’s not just to please Nathan. He’s not being open about his feelings or intentions, which is unfair to Nathan, who is trying to understand him. Instead of communicating honestly, Andy is creating unnecessary confusion, which hurts both of them. However, Nathan is the most wrong here. He’s prioritizing his own needs and frustrations instead of focusing on the relationship as a whole. Rather than pressuring Andy, he should be taking the time to communicate, not pressuring him into that kind of decision. Instead of making a rightful decision, he unilaterally ends things without considering Andy, even though he knows how deeply Andy feels for him. He knows what he's doing. If you find my comment unpleasant or hurtful, just ignore it I’m not trying to fight, just expressing my perspective

Didn’t Nathan also say he can’t be with someone so insecure? I feel like he’s really rude and harsh with his words when he knows how Andrew can be. I think that’s what ticked me off the most, besides the flirting and almost having sex with another guy. If they’re in a relationship, that is wrong, both of it is wrong. If not, the almost sexy with other guy I don’t care for. But it’s the way he chooses his words to say.

I checked a reply and yeah, they weren’t exclusively dating so no cheating WHEW. Also the one I was talking to said: “The current storyline are flashbacks to how they met and got together. Aside from a couple ones like the omegaverse and the cop/detective thing. The side stories are set in the present.”

So yeah, I feel better knowing it’s all good. I’ll just focus on side stories for now lmao. Can’t handle this caca.

Not offended at all.
I just wanted to chip in to the conversation because I see people hating on Nathan left and right which I find quite unfair given the circumstances. I think both have failed at communicating.

But to be fair, Nathan being older, I can see how he doesn't want to spend time on someone who is still trying to find themselves. It resonates with me and the whole movement of women being tired of teaching men how to be emotionally mature, and wanting to be with a person who already went to therapy and sorted their shit out.

If I remember correctly, Andy made Nathan wait like a month for the date stringing him along, so it's not like Nathan wasn't patient.
I don't see the situation in the hotel as an ultimatum to have sex, I see it more of a 'I am fed up with your bullshit and am calling you out on it' which kinda proved his point in my opinion.

So yeah, the relationship is a difficult one, which makes it more realistic to me, cause real life is messy - we don't get to see and understand the other person unless they are honest and communicate with us, and they are being pretty garbage about it at the moment. Both of them.

100% agree

this is why sometimes people need space to work on themselves and that's what's happening to them right now

Andrew can use this time to work on his insecurities and doubts about himself

while Nathan can use this time to work on his boundaries and feelings

Ahhh. Finally! Everything you said on this thread is spot on— how I see at least. As I was reading the comments, people are harsh on Nathan when in fact he has been quite patient with Andrew. I really stepped back and tried to re-evaluate and thought that there must be wrong with me, or “do I empathize more with the toxic ones in the relationship?” as I had a different take from everyone.

I may have been harsh on Andrew but that’s mainly due to his poor choice of words. I don’t really try to say one or another is TOXIC (it’s a strong label), but I’d say both did wrong things and both did good things that we all should try and understand. Like, I can see why Andrew was feeling upset but at the same time, his words were too much. Then again, he’s someone that’s tired of waiting for another to initiate something so I can’t blame him too much.

As for Nathan, I definitely think he did wrong things as well but I wouldn’t necessarily blame him for his behavior and insecurity. But does it still idk me that he doesn’t initiate and “run away”? Yes. It does bother me because that bothers Andrew.

I’m not gonna lie, as I type this, I completely forgot what Nathan’s insecurity was. Why was he not initiating, why did he not say to Andrew?

I think Nathan did express how nervous or scared he was? But why? And I guess the part where Nathan did (might have) expressed that, and Andrew reacting negatively to it, gave a bad look on Andrew’s part.

I’m JUST GLAD THAT WE KNOW THEY END UP TOGETHER CAUSE SIDE STORIES / AU’s are actually the present time.

Oh and I see why Andrew is upset at Nathan, I forgot it’s also because Nathan keeps on trying to “change” or something for him, and Andrew doesn’t like that.

Andrew was waiting for Nathan to say: Don’t go, and when Nathan did, he was surprised and looked back wifh HOPE. But Nathan killed it by adding that he’ll do whatever.

Both of them definitely did wrong things, it’s just that I was a bit overwhelmed with all of the Nathan hate and diss comments. Nathan may be the older, and the more experienced one, but it doesn’t mean we get to invalidate whatever it was that he was feeling throughout the story and Andrew gets an easy pass just bc he’s new. Nathan was extremely patient with Andrew despite him being strung along and being pushed and pulled away. It was clear from day 1 that sex and intimacy plays a big role on Nathan’s life, but he respected Andrew’s request to take things slow and got fed up when he was receiving mixed signals.
Andrew on the other hand, was extremely sweet and did try his best to level himself up to Nathan (not that I think that Nathan is above him, but that’s what he felt). He’s too innocent and naive so I guess it’s pretty easy why people gravitate towards him more.
With regards to Nathan’s insecurity, I can’t remember at all. Maybe I’d re-read everything once this gets a few more chapters out.