Oh Jiwook...tsk tsk What I want to say is I understand Jiwook but to hell with me actuall...

YaoiLover May 3, 2017 4:47 am

Oh Jiwook...tsk tsk

What I want to say is I understand Jiwook but to hell with me actually siding with him. I still think he is a low life prick. I would never harm nor let my sibling be raped and commit suicide and live with myself to think it's okay.
He blames his own crazy sense of reality on Siwon when it was him making up weird ideas that everyone looked down on him. Yeah people liked Siwon better but doesn't give him the right to think that he can destroy Siwon for that.
I also see people slightly back and forth about whether it's the parent's fault how Jiwook turnt out. Some yes and no; yes they should have praised their other child more and loved BOTH boys unconditionally. But just because some people praised one child more doesn't mean the other will lose their mind over it. It's call getting over it...if people blamed everything they decided to do just because mommy and daddy didn't love them enough...jesus christ the world would fall apart.
I am me because of me. Yes my parents raised by their rules and morals but I choose the path I walk and so did Jiwook. He could have talked to his mom and dad or relied on his brother. But instead he choose to live in his own pain and selfishness. That is his decision. Not Siwon's nor their parent's...His and his alone.

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    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:08 pm
    I'm a "venter." I like just getting all emotional and hollering at characters and etc. I get worked up. But that's part of how this gives me relaxation. I yell at manga and I can be a sweet, calm honeypie for t... manganiME

    Lol, i indulge in a certain amount of venting as well. You want to vent a shit ton? Go take a look at a manga called Complex by Manda Ringo. Ahaha....

    manganiME May 5, 2017 9:09 pm
    Lol, i indulge in a certain amount of venting as well. You want to vent a shit ton? Go take a look at a manga called Complex by Manda Ringo. Ahaha.... youraedthiswrogn

    Now you went and made me curious. I'm gonna go see if I read that one or not.

    And yeah, I'm a huge venter. I cry like a fiend watching movies--happy or sad. I yell at villains on the screen. I've been known to just have hissy fits over injustice. Bullying is one of my major hot buttons. I have ZERO tolerance for bullying, to the point that if a bully got beat up in a manga, I'd dance.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:10 pm
    Well, given that manga/manhwa sometimes take unbelievably ridiculous turns and unrealistic ones, too, I don't necessarily feel that being logical will turn out to be right, either. Storyland can be a wacko plac... manganiME

    This is actually a good point, maybe i'm just wired as a logical thinker? -internal thoughts brewing-

    manganiME May 5, 2017 9:13 pm

    OK, yeah, I read that one a while back. The molestation thing. Argh...Arrgh..I cannot handle molestation..........................I just want to crawl in a corner and weep for a week when I think about kids going through that. Which is why I got so angry reading YataMomo and hoped his mother would just get run over by a truck--twice. It's too painful.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:13 pm
    Now you went and made me curious. I'm gonna go see if I read that one or not.And yeah, I'm a huge venter. I cry like a fiend watching movies--happy or sad. I yell at villains on the screen. I've been known to j... manganiME

    Just brace through the first chapter, it has some shota but its integral to the story. You'll thank me if you haven't read this one, it's a masterpiece. If you're particularly emotional it might shatter you a few time for a few minutes. At one point i literally just walked away and raged for an hour.

    manganiME May 5, 2017 9:15 pm
    Just brace through the first chapter, it has some shota but its integral to the story. You'll thank me if you haven't read this one, it's a masterpiece. If you're particularly emotional it might shatter you a f... youraedthiswrogn

    You do that, too. My husband has sometimes begged me to stop reading, cause I get so upset about stuff like bullying and molestation and gang-rape...I will just go on and on about it. He doesnt' get into stories in books or comics or movies like me--emotional--so he doesn't quite get it, how I can act as if they are real people.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:17 pm
    OK, yeah, I read that one a while back. The molestation thing. Argh...Arrgh..I cannot handle molestation..........................I just want to crawl in a corner and weep for a week when I think about kids goi... manganiME

    If you stopped reading it because of the molestation you should definitely read it all the way through, the first chapter doesn't actually have sex, just molestation and then the molester is just gone till quite a ways into the story and you can just skip the next chapter he appears in as it is just supposed to be comedic filler. I think it was supposed to take your mind off of the turmoil the manga was putting you through, but they really shouldn't have used child rape as a joke... In other words, the first chapter is harmless, it has a little molestation but no sex and then the later chapter is pretty offensive as it has full blown child sex and you'll probably want to skip that chapter.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:18 pm
    You do that, too. My husband has sometimes begged me to stop reading, cause I get so upset about stuff like bullying and molestation and gang-rape...I will just go on and on about it. He doesnt' get into storie... manganiME

    Then he hasn't been exposed to any actually good stories, he hasn't found anything that hits home with him enough to take it seriously.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:20 pm
    You do that, too. My husband has sometimes begged me to stop reading, cause I get so upset about stuff like bullying and molestation and gang-rape...I will just go on and on about it. He doesnt' get into storie... manganiME

    Oh yeah, i do that too... Go watch peach girl (ignore the summary of the anime, it is so shitty, it's like its not even about the anime...), you'll have plenty of those moments. Or hana yori dango (this shit will have you out of your chair rooting for her).

    manganiME May 5, 2017 9:36 pm
    Oh yeah, i do that too... Go watch peach girl (ignore the summary of the anime, it is so shitty, it's like its not even about the anime...), you'll have plenty of those moments. Or hana yori dango (this shit wi... youraedthiswrogn

    I saw a bit of the peach girl anime a long time back, and I didn't continue with it. Hana Yori Dango, I saw most of the drama (well, hotties galore!). And yes, I was furious. It does make me wonder if schools are as bad as manga/dramas show the bullying. It's pretty rancid. Shun, Shota, and Jun all in one place, though. Oh, yes. Bring it.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:43 pm
    I saw a bit of the peach girl anime a long time back, and I didn't continue with it. Hana Yori Dango, I saw most of the drama (well, hotties galore!). And yes, I was furious. It does make me wonder if schools a... manganiME

    A lot of people won't look twice at Hana yori dango because of it's old art style, but the story is just SO good. I can see why you'd drop peach girl, while hana yori dango is a mature type of drama dealing with very real problems, peach girl is more of a catty high school girl type of drama which i could see not appealing to certain audiences. I just got hooked personally, i think what really did it for me was my hate for Sae and then eventually wanting to see who the MC would choose. It might seem kind of bad at first, but peach girl ends up being very... addictive.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:46 pm
    I saw a bit of the peach girl anime a long time back, and I didn't continue with it. Hana Yori Dango, I saw most of the drama (well, hotties galore!). And yes, I was furious. It does make me wonder if schools a... manganiME

    You want to see the fluffiest shit you've ever seen? Watch lovely complex or kimi ni todoke. It's hard to decide which is fluffier, i feel like kimi ni todoke is more fluff-oriented, but when a moment of fluff occurs in lovely complex its usually very impactful. Kimi ni todoke is fluff everywhere, lovely complex is concentrated bursts of fluff and both have great story that'll make you love the MC.

    manganiME May 5, 2017 9:53 pm
    You want to see the fluffiest shit you've ever seen? Watch lovely complex or kimi ni todoke. It's hard to decide which is fluffier, i feel like kimi ni todoke is more fluff-oriented, but when a moment of fluff ... youraedthiswrogn

    Kimi ni Todoke is one of my faves. I'm a Ryuu-fan, myself. Love that quiet, steadfast type. Plus Chizuru is my kind of gal. I wanted to jump in the manga and go to school with them. I grew to like that little crowd so much.

    Is Lovely Complex the tall girl/short guy one?

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:56 pm
    Kimi ni Todoke is one of my faves. I'm a Ryuu-fan, myself. Love that quiet, steadfast type. Plus Chizuru is my kind of gal. I wanted to jump in the manga and go to school with them. I grew to like that little c... manganiME

    I love Ryuu as well, i hope they animate a sequal to the main story about their story. I really want kurumi to end up with the new blond guy in season 2 also, she was a total bitch in season 1, but she's really become a good friend/rival to Sawako now.

    youraedthiswrogn May 5, 2017 9:59 pm
    I love Ryuu as well, i hope they animate a sequal to the main story about their story. I really want kurumi to end up with the new blond guy in season 2 also, she was a total bitch in season 1, but she's really... youraedthiswrogn

    And yes, lovely complex is about the short guyXtall girl and it is SO good. I cried during the bear curry scene when they went on the school trip.

    manganiME May 5, 2017 11:40 pm
    And yes, lovely complex is about the short guyXtall girl and it is SO good. I cried during the bear curry scene when they went on the school trip. youraedthiswrogn

    I'm gonna mark it to reread. Thanks for reminding me of Complex. It was so long ago, I had forgotten details. Just reread the whole thing (binge!) and was just on an emotional rollercoaster again. I forgot how wonderful it was. And then the beautiful ending (I was just all touched in my heart seeing them little boys playing soccer again...tears, tears)

    youraedthiswrogn May 6, 2017 1:18 am
    I'm gonna mark it to reread. Thanks for reminding me of Complex. It was so long ago, I had forgotten details. Just reread the whole thing (binge!) and was just on an emotional rollercoaster again. I forgot how ... manganiME

    No problem, it is so damn good. Have you read Junketsu Drop? It is a great yaoi, very sexy.

    YaoiLover May 6, 2017 5:30 am
    It's a comic. Of course, I can base my opinions on bias or my experience or a textbook. :D It's not like I'm a family therapist working with the Hans. I can choose to interpret it any way I want. And I don't ta... manganiME

    Well thank you very much. I found your views enlightening as well hun. (=・ω・=)