You guys should kiss
I went to touch grasse, and found you guys here. Lol.
A context? I was arguing with that person, Jax, about this manhwa. Instead of just argumenting with fairness, they went to dig infos on me. They did it, distributed -1 to ALL of my topics, and went to get back at me. I blocked them and called they out for stalking me. You think I could've have an intelligent convo with such person in dms? Someone who uses underhand means just to win an argument on some story? (So, sorry to annoy you rest of people, but just go your way if btw you don't bother yourself to understand the situation).
You wouldn't go dig infos, right?
Me neither. But they did. And they certainly did this with others too. I don't think Mangago has set this site for people to have such interactions with e/o. People shouldn't have to feel threatened to let their lists/infos 'public'; they shouldn't have to systematically hid everything bc of stalking and vile intentions.
And you guys here, not understanding the context, but saying they're not in the wrong for their actions doesn't help.
its just sounds like jax called out your hypocritical attitude- based on the other stuff you read, and you dont like that.
jax weird as hell for being so obsessed with this story tho.
you guys are both so funny.
Disliking all your comments is completely incongruent to all our interactions so far. I only skimmed to like the fourth page of your lists to better understand your perspective of where you draw the line in fiction. And then I saw something that made your argument come off as hypocritical. That’s it. Why would I go through all of your topics to click that tiny ass dislike button when that contributes nothing to the conversation. Until mangago implements a feature to show who interacted with your comment, it’s your word against mine. And neither of us have any proof lol. So it’s probably pointless to speak in absolutes.
Sorry im just autistic. Can we kiss now.
only if youre cute
Pretend I'm your favorite uke or something <33333
thats kinda gay...
Jojo, I have nothing against you, but if you want to speak about this matter you should at least read what I wrote. Seems you don't. You're not qualified to judge me.
But anyway, enjoy kissing each other ass.
Sky is above, Earth is below, if you're innocent you'll be safe. But if you're the one who did evil, you know what awaits you.
Actions have consequences. That's the only thing I can say since I don't want to wasted any more time with the kind like you.
Even if you 'just' went as far as my fourth page, this is stalking and crazy, especially for the purposes you have.
Do you grow better after reading this story?
Do you grow more cultured, did you learn some life lesson, courage, while being entertained...? Nope, nothing of this.
I feel sorry for you that you can't understand why everybody can't adhere to this story, also that you rather choose to fight - the way you do- for a work like this instead of a work that favors aspect like beauty, resilience and other human qualities.
WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS NEW AGE SHIT INTO THE YAOI CONVERSATION LMFAOOO
I'll make sure to only read beautiful, cultured rape stories from now on like you do </3
Omg you guys realise this bs has been going on for 5 day. FIVE. DAYS. I already thought I was overstepping by googling the definition of stalking but everyone that got involved and took sides w/o knowing all the facts is way too involved in this.
Anyway the definition is indeed "unwanted attention, harassment or contact". Is this case severe enough to bring to court or compare to following someone home? No, most definitely not. So it wasn't what people normally imagine by stalking, yet boundaries were definitely overstepped. And that is what MangaSanctuary is trying to convey.
Try empathising, you just wanna read stories that entertain you to get AWAY FROM REALITY. But then people start call your ratings hypocritical and say your preferences IN FICTION indicate you're a rapist (look at this whole comment section I mean). Honestly, it ain't that deep, bros. It was never that deep. Nothing's that deep. Most of them are virgins, afraid of men, social interaction and physical touch anyway (no offence, cuz lowkey same).
Let's just settle on the facts, Jax may have not respected MangaSanctuarys boundaries by calling them out on a whole other comment section and continued writing (and lowkey insulting the entirety of the french population, not cool btw just narrow it down to like "the government" or smth., if possible please) after MangaSanctuary clearly had already blocked them once and asked not to contact/comment anymore. And MangaSanctuary may have used words that exaggerated the actual situation because they felt uncomfortable and personally attacked, even if that may not have been Jaxs intention. Which in return made Jax feel verbally attacked and accused. So now you're in an vicious cycle.
Looking into the future, I hope everyone involved won't respond anymore. You two should go your separate ways because you obviously don't want to continue this convo and only respond to defend yourselves.
Jax, if I was overly mean and accusing in my precious comment, I apologise. That was due to the fact that I do in fact like "rapey" stories and felt attacked by your statements. I don't like them in a weird, abusive, sadistic, sexual way but rather a in a weird, mentally sick, I-listen-to-serial-killer-and-cannibalism-podcasts way. I can also promise you that I will not rape a guy or any other person ever. And no, neither will I fantasise about it. So I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to feel accused of rape or concerned for the life of the author (not because of you in this case) every single time I'm done reading a manhwa and see the comment section.
MangaSanctuary, bro, it ain't that deep, just let it go. Forget about what happened and just read whatever you want and rate them however you want. I read that you've been on this app for 10 years, I assume and trust you are at an age where you have proper reasoning for your decision/rating and you won't be swayed by others comments. What might not make sense for others, might make sense for you. AND THEY SHOULD RESPECT THAT. (also don't change your rating on Nerd Project, if you don't want to, like I said "you do you" also it shouldn't be any of my business in the first place)
Ofc, I can't tell you what to do but I do hope you seriously consider this compromise cuz you probably won't find a better one. Please, don't obsess over these things and let's just enjoy the website instead of possibly destroying it through internal conflict.
Lots of love (▰˘◡˘▰)
I appreciate the more nuanced perspective. I don't really like to take this stuff across multiple comments in a space that's meant for discussing the story. I only made my own comment to dunk on them after they made a post about me claiming that I'm going around attacking people. Which isn't a very faithful representation of what I've been doing. I like to debate people is all. The first thing you're taught in any kind of speech or debate class is to be well-informed, so I sometimes skim through people's lists to see what angle they're coming from and how to address their claims better. I totally acknowledge that people take advantage of the anonymity they have on this site to verbally harass others, but all I did was take a peek at their list. As for the person who disliked all their comments, that IS needlessly aggressive and petty behavior. I am not responsible for that, but since mangago keeps all likes and dislikes anonymous, I don't have any proof. I know this argument got childish on my end as well, but my point has always been that if you want to hold one triggering manhwa to real life standards, then you cannot pick and choose which triggering manhwa count as "dangerous IRL" and which are just "silly dark josei". I don't hold anything against you for taking a snappish tone in your first comment. If anything, I found it refreshing--especially since you've clarified your points more. No need to stand on ceremony on a yaoi manga site. I am sorry you've felt attacked by any of the comments you've seen here, and even more so if my comments have caused you to feel judged for liking taboo fiction. I highly condemn people who accuse others of heinous acts IRL because they read dark and fucked up stories. At the end of the day, I love the "thrill of the debate", but I take an issue with being likened to a stalker or a harasser. Especially when there's SO much harassment on this site already. There were people having a three page long argument filled with slurs and suicide-baiting the day before I started yaoi filibustering with mangasanctuary, for Christ's sake. I can't change the fact that they felt so deeply offended by me, but I recognize things went off the rails pretty bad towards the end when it would've been more productive to defend my character succinctly and enforce the block they keep overstepping. Thank you for your input, Shuli. Sorry for bothering you with all this.
No need to apologise. Honestly I think I was also just really irritable since I didn't sleep a wink that night to study for exams. Might even have choked smo if they looked at me the wrong way that day.
I get where you are coming from now and that you like to debate but for the future let's just keep in mind that debating people that do not also want to debate is just lowkey bullying at some point. The fundamentals of debate class are everyone gets assigned a ROLE and to be respectful. If someone does not wish to be part of a debate I think their "role" is clear. Especially since there may be people here that do not feel articulate enough to defend themselves. English is my third language so if my 7th grade teacher (or a person online) had asked to debate I'd have probably cried or sued for public humiliation, lol.
Since I took mediation class (cuz my school didn't offer debate) I'd also like to remind everyone to always remember Schulz von Thun's 4 Ears Model.
Communication, brothers! (●￣(ｴ)￣●)
You call someone out for shitting on this manhwa but doing tricks on a het manhwa that also glamorizes abuse and rape and they crash out and accuse you of stalking </3
People will harp on this series specifically for being baldly violent and you click on their profile to find more rapey manhwa. Everyone has a line they cannot cross in fiction, but I feel like once you start accusing an artist of heinous shit IRL you need to hold all the others to those same standards. Literally: “I can excuse rape and domestic abuse but I draw the line at gang rape”