I can’t lie I overthink everything. I just can’t control it unless there’s someone there to tell me “stop overthinking and just do it”. I have no idea why I just stare at messages trying to find out what’s wrong with them or why I don’t know how to respond to simple messages like “wsp” without sounding stupid. It just happens so I kinda get what’s going on with the mc but after it’s been a while I’ll be like “yo what’s going on?”
Ok I'm trying to understand. So you physically can't write the question you want to know about in situations like this? And if there is a chance you can why do this to yourself? Is this something one can learn? I wouldn't want to live like this. I mean it's not like I never think to much about something but most of the time I just do it. Not being able to do that sounds fucking exhausting
Yeah but asking something always has the chance to hear something you don't wanna hear. That's life or am I wrong? Like there will be times where life goes the way you want it and times where it doesn't. It's the same the other way around. A person themself will say things that other won't like to hear, but so it is then. I'm truly trying to understand but it seems like I can't
While true, it doesn’t necessarily deter people from going against it. there are probably things that you do that can come across as irrational to other people; we all do things for the sake of our own comfort.
a more extreme example i can think of was when a person told me they want kids but cant because they are afraid of their child dying from a public shooting. is death a part of the risk of life? yes. would telling them that make them change their decision and lessen their anxiety? probably not.
again thats a little extreme, but anxiety can make things feel that way. you dont have to understand, just give grace or be patient with others. that is simply how they cope with things.
Like you said it is a very extreme example and the fear of death isn't comparable to writing a message or asking something. Maybe because it's absolutely not on the same caliber I still can't seem to understand. Or is overthinking like that a recognized mental illness like depression? Then it's a whole different matter. If not it seems like something people have but don't seriously work on
I guess another way to look at this topic and apply it to the manhwa is to reframe the perspective and consider how sunbae would feel if gunjoon brought up his concerns and the connotations of those questions to sunbae’s reputation.
how would gunjoon bring up the rumors without insinuating that he somewhat believes them? how do you think sunbae would feel knowing that his own boyfriend possibly could think of him as a slut? would asking these questions for gunjoon’s peace of mind outweight the discomfort that it may bring to sunbae having been associated with those rumors? Sure, it can be framed as “overthinking” but it can also be deemed “considerate” even if it is at the cost of his own mental comfort.
or to return the previous idea of “i shouldn’t have asked,” what would gunjoon do now if those rumors were true? you can say that life is about chance, but what if you consider the context of this situation? they live in korea, a largely homophobic country with a small dating pool. and while gunjoon has had multiple dates, they’ve all gone poorly or treated him poorly. hes only had ONE relationship go well and the odds of him having another successful relationship that meet his criteria are not very high. would it called irrational for him to consider the risk of ruining his one good relationship because of rumors and personal biases that he has the capacity to work on himself? I wouldn’t really say so.
Not all overthinking is pathological, sometimes it can be explained by context. i brought up anxiety in particular because an overarching statement like “i hate overthinkers” is a bit extreme. like I said, anxiety can make seemingly normal tasks or responses feel like death. overthinking is not a mental illness in itself, but it is a common symptom of many mental health conditions. but either way, it’s not a purely negative trait; its important for our survival as a species. its just painted a nuisance when it is inconvenient to others or if it causes legitimate harm.
hope this makes sense
On the example of the manwha:
Gunjoon does believe the rumors. And his boyfriend does like literally nothing to calm him. And nobody can tell me he doesn't know the rumors about him. He never talks about anything important, so he doesn't have any right to be mad when asked about it. So I truly think Gunjoon has the right to believe it and the other bro doesn't have the right to take it personal. So not talking about anything isn't considerate in my opinion. It's hindering and self-destructive.
Your next point I understand but I again think it's self destructive to take the chance to be with a manwhore even though he doesn't like it only to be with someone or not be alone.
Obviously "hate" was an exaggeration in my formulation but I can't deal with people like that. A little bit worries here and there isn't the problem. But to deal with someone who tears themself down constantly is too hard, except they're working on it. In case of the manwha Gunjoon doesn't do shit to be better and I can't stand it
Wtf, that's why I hate overthinkers. If I wanna know something, I fucking ASK. It's not that hard. I can't with people like that