So confused

Huaran January 15, 2025 12:58 pm

—DID Nathan CHEAT?

Someone said: “Nathan went to go have sex with someone else without Andrew knowing, but Andrew caught them outside the hotel. So the guy that Nathan was going to have sex with suggested that the three of them should do it and Andrew felt pressured because he didn’t want Nathan to do it with somebody else so he forced himself to join but they didn’t actually go through with it. (But catch up on Webtoon, there is more fucked up shit that Nathan does. Sorry for the long reply btw).”

—IS ANDREW AND NATHAN DATING? If so, why did Nathan agree to have sex with that other guy? Isn’t that cheating? If it is, why are people like:

-If Nathan was a girl, people would be on his side (NO? Cheating is wrong regardless of who does it?)

-Nathan did nothing wrong. (Some people said he cheated, so is that not something wrong? Not to mention the pressure of sex, Nathan feeling that’s what he has really).

—As for Andrew, he’s a coward and this pisses me off. Nathan should’ve broke things off after the tying scene.

And I saw chapter 120-121, I’m disgusted by Nathan. He can be burdened by Andrew and all, which I understand, but he should’ve spoke with Andrew and broke things off for good. But no, he continued the threesome (which didn’t happen) and didn’t fully object when Andrew reluctantly joined.

The other guy hit on Andrew and wanted to have sex with him. Nathan, blushed a bit before saying that Andrew wouldn’t like it, and he’d be hurt.

—Andrew implying that if he wasn’t with Nathan or if Andrew didn’t care, Andrew would sleep with that guy. This is so wrong on many levels! Openly flirting and acting like he’s the only one hurt when he did that is crazy.

Obviously Nathan is pathetic and I hate him for that. I get his insecurities but it pisses me off that he’s chasing someone who doesn’t give a damn enough to be loyal.

I can also see that Andrew is tired of Nathan not taking initiative, and going along with whatever he does which is bothering him. If I knew my partner has insecurities, I’d discuss with them and reassure them, ask them questions, etc. (If Andrew already tried to do this, I don’t blame him. Sometimes it won’t work by discussing). Andrew does push away too. Even so, the cheating isn’t it.

What these two need isn’t communication but a goodbye! Maybe.

Responses
    Izumi-Chan January 15, 2025 1:25 pm

    He did it out of anger and frustration with Andrew. “Since you keep pushing me away without a proper explanation I’m going with someone who actually wants me” or something like that must have been his mentality.

    Huaran January 15, 2025 2:45 pm
    He did it out of anger and frustration with Andrew. “Since you keep pushing me away without a proper explanation I’m going with someone who actually wants me” or something like that must have been his men... Izumi-Chan

    Yeah I know but the flirting situation/cheating ( they are together at the time) got me upset. He should’ve just ended it with Andrew before doing that.

    I guess what got me the most was him implying that if Nathan doesn’t know/isn’t hurt, he would sleep with the other guy. Even so, he still chose to go and have sex without Andrew knowing.

    And yeah, thanks for the explanation. That makes sense, and I wonder what happened after the threesome didn’t happen, did Andrew go back with that guy or??

    Izumi-Chan January 15, 2025 5:03 pm
    Yeah I know but the flirting situation/cheating ( they are together at the time) got me upset. He should’ve just ended it with Andrew before doing that.I guess what got me the most was him implying that if Na... Huaran

    I do think the lack of communication made things worse. Adding the fact that they both have strong feelings for each other but neither of them are ready to have a relationship at the moment.

    Andrew needs to work on his self confidence as it goes beyond how he feels about Nathan. He lacks it in every aspect of his life and that’s due to his upbringing.

    Nathan needs to reflect on his feelings for Andrew and figure out what he wants. Feelings aside, does he even want to get into a relationship period or does he eventually want to get serious with someone.

    I can see both sides and it’s frustrating to watch so I am looking forward to seeing how they resolve things. Though to be honest I wish Andrew did date someone else and did more of what he wanted aside from his feelings from Nathan as I think that will be of help to him.

    As far as the threesome I assume because of what happened with him and Andrew I don’t think he went ahead and has sex with the painter. Considering how he was hesitant from the very beginning because of Andrew.

    Huaran January 15, 2025 5:14 pm
    I do think the lack of communication made things worse. Adding the fact that they both have strong feelings for each other but neither of them are ready to have a relationship at the moment.Andrew needs to work... Izumi-Chan

    He was hesitant cause of Andrew but the way he said implied he would have sex with that guy if Andrew wasn’t his partner/something.

    Lmao something cause they’re confusing them. Also, they are dating right? How did they even get together, I forgot.

    Izumi-Chan January 15, 2025 6:38 pm
    He was hesitant cause of Andrew but the way he said implied he would have sex with that guy if Andrew wasn’t his partner/something.Lmao something cause they’re confusing them. Also, they are dating right? H... Huaran

    I mean that’s what Nathan is used to and I’m not defending him by the way. I don’t think they were exclusively dating..

    Nathan made it clear at the beginning to his friend that although he liked Andrew it’s not a relationship meant to be serious. I think he thought Andrew felt the same way which idk how he could’ve thought that. Considering how WHIPPED Andrew has been since the very beginning.

    It’s confusing because they never really set any boundaries or defined their relationship. They clearly had different perspectives of what it was. They met on a plane to New York City and through a series of misunderstandings eventually came to the realization they liked each other. So considering how things started between them this was bound to happen eventually.

    Huaran January 15, 2025 6:55 pm
    I mean that’s what Nathan is used to and I’m not defending him by the way. I don’t think they were exclusively dating.. Nathan made it clear at the beginning to his friend that although he liked Andrew it... Izumi-Chan

    If they never confess to each other or nothing, then yeah not dating. No cheating either. I still think Nathan is an asshole but not a cheater if that’s true. He’s hurt, and so is Andrew. Dumb asses really.

    Andrew needs to be more initiative or at least tell Nathan about his worries. Did he?

    I remember Andrew listening and responding like how he doesn’t want to be with an insecure person, which is pretty insensitive ngl. I don’t remember why Andrew was upset when Nathan expressed whatever he felt.

    Izumi-Chan January 15, 2025 8:26 pm
    If they never confess to each other or nothing, then yeah not dating. No cheating either. I still think Nathan is an asshole but not a cheater if that’s true. He’s hurt, and so is Andrew. Dumb asses really.... Huaran

    I think so? I mean they made it known to each other how they felt and it was pretty clear but aside from that they failed to understand each other or at least insist on things. Nathan is the type of guy who moves on quickly and Andrew struggles with self confidence but I don’t think they viewed it as something that would be a deal breaker.
    From Andrew’s POV I don’t even think he was aware of Nathan being the type to move on quickly until Nathan’s friends mentioned it to him. I also don’t think Nathan really took into consideration how severe Andrew’s self confidence struggles were as he was too infatuated with the hot big dick muscular guy with tattoos in front of him.
    Something like this was bound to happen from the beginning. We know for a fact Andrew has never felt this way before and for Nathan not only but I don’t think anyone has treated him with the way Andrew has. I’ll refer to the library scene where they are running and Nathan says to Andrew “You have to protect me” to which Andrew says “That’s a given” his reaction to that made it known (at least to me) he’s never had anyone.

    I feel bad for Andrew because as frustrating as it is to deal with a person like him, I get where he’s coming from. Nathan I also see where he’s coming from with his directness but I do think he could’ve said it differently. Idk I think the signs were there but neither of them were able to see it as the intuition as too much. I’m not mad at either one of them as they are both at fault but yes Nathan was an asshole I will not lie about that. Andrew shouldn’t have lied either about him being a virgin, I personally don’t think Nathan would’ve had a problem with that. I get that Andrew’s physical appearance can make anyone assume what type of person he’s going to be but by the time either of them decided to say something it was too late. Nathan was too frustrated and Andrew’s fear had already gotten the best of him…..But people being mad a Nathan is valid as it is those who are frustrated/mad at Andrew. As each have done things to be mad/frustrated for…I also don’t think we needed a third person added to the mix for this conflict as the cracks were beginning to show.

    Huaran January 15, 2025 8:58 pm
    I think so? I mean they made it known to each other how they felt and it was pretty clear but aside from that they failed to understand each other or at least insist on things. Nathan is the type of guy who mov... Izumi-Chan

    Wait Nathan lied about being a virgin? Why?
    That’s so stupid .

    Huaran January 15, 2025 8:59 pm
    I think so? I mean they made it known to each other how they felt and it was pretty clear but aside from that they failed to understand each other or at least insist on things. Nathan is the type of guy who mov... Izumi-Chan

    Also they’re switches? Or just for fanservice? :(

    Izumi-Chan January 15, 2025 9:21 pm
    Also they’re switches? Or just for fanservice? :( Huaran

    I think they actually switch. The current storyline are flashbacks to how they met and got together. Aside from a couple ones like the omegaverse and the cop/detective thing. The side stories are set in the present.

    Huaran January 15, 2025 9:34 pm
    I think they actually switch. The current storyline are flashbacks to how they met and got together. Aside from a couple ones like the omegaverse and the cop/detective thing. The side stories are set in the pre... Izumi-Chan

    Ohh okay thank you!! I was wondering why they looked so happy and sweet like committed couple before and now they’re just…

    Izumi-Chan January 16, 2025 1:12 am
    Ohh okay thank you!! I was wondering why they looked so happy and sweet like committed couple before and now they’re just… Huaran

    Anytime . Yeah this is like Here U Are in the sense that we see them meet and then get chapters of their current relationship. To be honest when I started reading this I thought it was going to be about two college students who fall in love in a 14hrs plane ride to NY and fuck like rabbits lol.

    Huaran January 23, 2025 3:43 pm
    Anytime . Yeah this is like Here U Are in the sense that we see them meet and then get chapters of their current relationship. To be honest when I started reading this I thought it was going to be about two col... Izumi-Chan

    Holy shit I didn’t see this reply notification!! Ims sorry. And I agree.

    Honestly my heart crumbled when in the side story, MC said that their Spark has died. But I realize that’s how relationships are as time goes by, and it’s up to the couple on if it’ll last or not.

    I love Here U Are so much.

    Izumi-Chan January 23, 2025 4:08 pm
    Holy shit I didn’t see this reply notification!! Ims sorry. And I agree.Honestly my heart crumbled when in the side story, MC said that their Spark has died. But I realize that’s how relationships are as t... Huaran

    Many people didn't like that happening but as you said it does happen. It’s a beautiful story that I never get tired of rereading

    Huaran January 23, 2025 8:17 pm
    Many people didn't like that happening but as you said it does happen. It’s a beautiful story that I never get tired of rereading Izumi-Chan

    Spark is basically just the excitement of knowing a new person. The spark can always be revived if both work on their relationship and do their best.

    Izumi-Chan January 23, 2025 11:01 pm
    Spark is basically just the excitement of knowing a new person. The spark can always be revived if both work on their relationship and do their best. Huaran

    Indeed (⌒▽⌒)