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Ch 51 she referred to them as “children” multiple times. And at least one of them, the green hair was a child when she first became his master, they showed an image of her holding his hand when he was no more than Claude’s age forgot which chapter.
She isn’t their bio mom, but she is a mentor to these kids whose families have not been shown so we can assume are orphans or come from bad backgrounds, therefore they look up to her as a mother like figure.l bc why else are they so dead set on finding their master who took off like that?
And she quite literally does have the obligation to be responsible for them bc they know her secret, they’ve helped her since children, and they are as you can see, not emotionally stable.
I’m not asking she stay by them 24:7 for the rest of her life, just that she lets them in on her plan so they don’t go crazy looking for her, which we’ve seen happen.
Idky it sounds like ur making excuses for her when she’s in the wrong ab leaving them? I wasn’t exaggerating btw when I said she left w only this “you guys are good, you no longer need me, goodbye” I binged it so it’s fresh on my mind. Debate me all you want, that is objectively trash behavior.
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Someone's salty the main charcter has a flaw that isn't being addressed and if it isn't addressed shows the lack of depth in that character. I'm sorry but the FL is starting to genuinely be selfishly incompetent when it comes to emotional relationships. Claude and Ethan became her shiny new playthings so she tossed the old ones when they were no longer useful. Is that better?
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You just can’t tell the difference between relationships. She was never close to her disciples. They didn’t even know her name or face. At most she met them and took them to the wizard tower to learn magic. She at most is their teacher. She didn’t raise them as her children. She is not their mother. She’s at most like a sponsor. And sponsors and teachers have no obligation to give more than what is required of their job. It’s more weird yall expect her act like their mother when she never did in the first place. Good luck defending stalkers who are selfishx, sores to respect boundaries, and like to cause chaos and harm to others. Y’all acting like they’re still babies being brainwashed when they’re the ones who have an abnormal attachment no one should ever have. Do you stalk your teachers who taught you just cause they were nice to you and did their job lmao.
Claude and Ethan are people who she personally met and grew close to. Claude is also the son of her own friend. Ethan is someone whom she started seeing romantically.
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Huh?!? This makes no sense ESPECIALLY the last sentence. She CHOSE not to get close to her disciples and only used them to help with her personal cause. Whether she meant to or not, they were attached to her, be it her calm, warm nature, or just someone admirable. The same way she CHOSE to grow close to Claude and Ethan, it was literally all her decisions to abandon one and seek out the other.
They all have something in common- they all suffer due to her creating the story. She said herself that she feels GUILTY for them ALL yet only chose to get close to some of her “victims” and choose not to for others.
Idc what you say, that is OBJECTIVELY trashy behavior. And the responsibility I’m asking she take isn’t even time consuming or effortful. Just be honest with them?!? Y’all acting like I’m asking her to be their slave till death, never leaving their side, tend to their every need…
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But if she was a decent person she will choose to take responsibility for these disciples she picked up as researchers for her cause that has worked with her for years (at least some of them). Does a mentor not have responsibilities to their students? She can def discard them, he’ll she already did, but does that make her a decent person the story is making her out to be? A creator determined to right her wrongs? Idky it’s so hard for y’all to understand that she made a bad decision and I’m calling it out
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Because she has no OBLIGATION TO DO SO. SHE IS NOT HER MOTHER. SHE WAS ONLY EVER THEIR TEACHER. You are JUSTIFYING their insane obsession over her just cause she’s NICE to them. You sound exactly like those people who accuse victims for acting nice to guys and once they become stalkers, you’re like: “you should’ve expected this because you were nice to them! It should be obvious they’ll be attached!!”
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And here is your weird input in your original comment:
“ I want updates on her 3 disciples who was unfairly tortured in an endless sleep of nightmares for a month and we don’t even know what happens to them. She hasn’t even asked about them or visited them since she woke up. Their only crime was missing their master who raised them and suddenly left.” You’re trying to rewrite the narrative and act like they’re angels.
Newsflash of all the bad shit they did that you seemed to ignore: Chapter 45, green head says his plan to endanger everyone involving the royal family, is to throw around the dangerous af mana stones in order to create an event so their master will appear. The girl disciple says how that’s too dangerous and he replies “master will just cough up a little blood.” :p
Chapter 48 solidifies the girl disciple knew the plan and still let’s it be because she also wants to see the master. Then green head says how he combined the stones to make an even stronger effect- which girl disciple states how it’ll be even bigger of a bad situation. Green head replies, “I know! But master will handle it when they see it!”
Chapter 49, red head attacks the ML and throws everyone in the room back, not giving a shit about the child and how his master is unconscious and he basically knocked her off the couch she was unconscious on. Then is about to go for the kid until the kid reacted. Chapter 51 talks about how they were punished while FL was in a coma. But clearly said the GIRL DISCIPLE agreed to the punishment for harming their master. It showed that it was the girl disciple’s powers that was binding all of them. These disciples endangers SEVERAL innocent ppl, including the royal family, they will not go unpunished. FL has every right to be mad for both physically ending up in harms way and also her disciplined causing all the potential harm to others.
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And more nonsense you speak about abandoning grown mf adults. She did her damn job and finished it. She’s not gonna breastfeed these grown mfs. You’re looking at them like they’re damn toddlers, that’s the weird part.
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Also in these sort of historical stories, it is NORMAL for one to take in young apprentices to learn and become disciples of your work. That does not mean they are your damn parent and doesn’t mean they are obligated to do more than that. They are already lucky enough to even be chosen by a master, compared to everyone else who didn’t get picked. The master does THEM the favor of giving them work and money and education. The normal process is the student accepts it, works in return, and moves on with their life. If you bothered reading chapter 21-22, the other masters in the tower also pointed out how those disciples are abnormal and should be independent like everyone else.
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I feel like you skim over a lot of points I made which I’m guilty of when it’s a long ass cmt. I did point out how they were emotionally and mentally unstable bc of all the shit they did and that’s why I lamented why she would pick them up to discard them. If you see someone troubled in the mind, decide to take them under your wing, then they are your responsibility idc if they’re adults she’ll still be responsible for them bc she picked them up.
You can debate that for the green hair to have been a normal child, then that would imply he got corrupted under her care of many years, hence making her a shit person. Either way, he, especially is her responsibility.
And I went back to read ch 51 and it did not say anything ab girl disciple’s own power binding them. But it doesn’t matter bc in this ch fl literally said “this is all my fault” the character legit admitted fault yet you, as a reader refuse to admit it she also said some pretty damming things too like how she “wanted to save them” but failed bc how u gonna save someone but discard them in the end in that manner?
And you didn’t touch on my points on how she treats the ppl in the story she created different. Claude/Ethan’s treatment vs the disciples treatment. She wants to save her disciples, but through what means? Being their faceless, voiceless mentor of many years? You call that being lucky? And if she wants to save them, then she HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE IT THROUGH!!!! Can you honestly say she did a good job saving them with how they turned out? She wants better for them bc she feels their suffering is her fault, yet her actions do not match her feelings. You can’t feel guilty for someone’s suffering, say you’ll help, but halfass it.
Also, I literally said over and over and over that the responsibility I want her to take is simply being HONEST! And you’re over here cmting bs ab “she doesn’t need to breastfeed them” like no fucking durr no one wants that. Tell me quick, how is her being honest like she was with Claude and ethan to her disciples not a good and simple solution to everything? They’ll understand her means, and will help her like they’ve been doing.
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Chapter 51 here is missing parts of the chapter lmfao. You can easily check by looking at chapter 51 in both the raws and on other sites. The missing parts of the chapter is when the magic circle is explained, what it does, and that it’s belluna, the girl disciple’s power. Also the FL saying “this is all my fault” doesn’t mean shit. Do you know how many times that phrase has been said in both fiction and real life and it’s not actually their fault?? An example is: asking your mom to pick you up from practice after school and she gets hit by a car and becomes comatose, and you say “it’s all my fault!” When it ain’t actually your fault. That phrase doesn’t mean shit lmaooo.
I’ll touch on your points with how different she treats the disciples. One is people she sees professionally as students, whom she didn’t form emotional connections with and didn’t get to know well mutually. It’s like comparing classmates/students to your personal friends/family. The other are people whom she got close to personally and connected with. And yes I call it being lucky because they could’ve been left alone like all the other people who didn’t get chosen. She helped by providing them an opportunity to learn, work, and gain more opportunities for their future. She didn’t even punish them herself, and let them go. She lectured the crazy green head and just told him to reflect. That is all.
And no they won’t understand her means as they couldn’t even respect her own wishes for them to be independent and not follow her.
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And to add that green head is an obsessed weirdo on his own. Both the other disciples know and pointed out he’s much crazier than them. Green head is self aware that he’s obsessed, as he stated it several times. He doesn’t give af about how he almost had a hand in nearly murdering a hall full of people, he doesn’t acknowledge it. He’s STILL plotting with the evil first prince in the raws. And if the machine translation is right, he’s planning to kidnap someone, idk if that means FL, Claude, or the duke. He also is already imagining having the FL all to himself and is leaning to romantic feelings. He is a psycho on his own. The proof stands in the other two disciples who are not as crazy as he is, showing it isn’t an issue with the FL’s teaching and it wasn’t her that corrupted him. She was acting like a normal human being and got an obsessive student in return. You simply cannot say anything about the FL causing his insanity since you’re just assuming to make you feel better about your point about her being bad. There isn’t even much info on their past, and so far has only shown basic teacher/student brief scenes.
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I'm laughing at a character you're fighting everyone in the comments. You can't compare those two things, Choco, even if you really want to. If you look closely you're quite literally the only one who's getting heated the rest of us are just saying we don't like the charactee and aren't enjoying her. I'm bored of her and think she's pulling a high Nd mighty and you're... well you took it personallt as if you've self-inserted yourself into the character which, frankly, I couldn't give more of a fuck about.
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Good for you, are you done? You can reply to me once you actually give anything to the conversation. But if you’re just here to talk about your feelings, then be on your way.
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For someone who says you don’t care, you cared enough to reply, and to make comments on others comments as well. Don’t be hypocritical when you’re genuinely mad at 2d characters yourself. You’re no different. The thing both of you may be confused about is me caring if you like the character or not. You can hate her guts, and I truly do not care. That was never my damn point. The thing I care about is when people say nonsense that doesn’t make sense in connection with the story and neither did the story display what y’all assumed. Y’all can hate her personality, looks, anything else and I wouldn’t mind at all. It’s only when people get the plot wrong and don’t even remember half the story then rant about it, while not having the facts right, which annoy tf outta me.
I used to love the fl bc she was a determined bad bitch but lately she pisses me off. Idc about her, I don’t want to read about her, I want updates on her 3 disciples who was unfairly tortured in an endless sleep of nightmares for a month and we don’t even know what happens to them. She hasn’t even asked about them or visited them since she woke up. Their only crime was missing their master who raised them and suddenly left.
She feels at fault for the duke and Claude’s suffering so she’s dedicating so much time and effort into them, and she also mentions how she feels guilty for her disciples suffering yet never gives them and inch. She raised them since they were kids, she has never shown them her face or her voice, and one day she just left with a simple “you guys are good, you no longer need me, goodbye” like bitch bffr
It’s giving that one ass manhua/hwa “Charlotte and her Disciples” or sum like that where she left them in suffering and loneliness bc she wanted peace yet she had an obligation to watch over them bc they were her responsibility.
Why do these characters pick up emotional dependent and unstable kids only to selfishly leave them???? There was no reason the fl had to conceal everything about her, she was already honest about her spilt persona yet can’t be honest in what she’s trying to do next in helping the duke and his son???