Finding it weird

FluffyKnight January 10, 2025 12:44 pm

I read this more logically in the aspect of gay relationship (cause Im still a single gay virgin)

I find it weird how people say this is fluffy and the seme is green flag. TBH, I see him more as a yellow flag (middle of green and red)

The beginning chapters were odd and annoying, I get that they already fix it and is being fluffy. But the premise on the first chapter of the side story?

Its like the ML is manipulating the MC to having seggs by seeing fault at his action. That is clearly not green flag. Also his redemption for trying to dub-con the MC at the beginning isnt fleshed out and just portrayed by staying away from the uke.

Also the premise of this manhwa is all about having seggs and naui (bottom) is just a typical slut bottom for their tops in manhwa's I already read. I dont care if this is just a fiction, but portraying a gay bottom like this isnt close to fluffy for me.

That's it, I just want to share my perspective since most of you all are seeing this in the shades of green.

Responses
    qxzvtz January 10, 2025 2:21 pm

    this is so real. I only finished it because I started it, yk?

    Moonpie January 10, 2025 3:40 pm

    THANK YOU, I thought I was going insane or something cause no one else was saying it but like, this is so clearly manipulative??? Why does the seme get mad when the uke decides he wants to be friends with benefits when the seme's been forcing himself on him the first few times?? And the amount of times the uke apologized to HIM was insane, like??

    Lanlala January 10, 2025 5:10 pm

    Sigh >.>'
    That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi.

    Do you know what the culture you're reading IS ABOUT ?

    Yaoi isn't just any fiction, and it doesn't have anything to do with gay romance. In fact, this manhwa here is a typical yaoi plot that was very well developed,

    and you can't expect any other logic besides yaoi logic!

    You CAN'T compare reading cultures, each one has its own rules to be developed.

    But now, If you still think that yaoi should follow any moral logic, you're just wasting your time reading it in the wrong way.

    Moonpie January 10, 2025 6:41 pm
    Sigh >.>'That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi. Do you know what the culture you're rea... Lanlala

    What in the-

    keo January 10, 2025 10:50 pm
    Sigh >.>'That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi. Do you know what the culture you're rea... Lanlala

    i really needed a laugh today thank you

    FluffyKnight January 11, 2025 1:33 am
    Sigh >.>'That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi. Do you know what the culture you're rea... Lanlala

    Uhmm... no thanks

    Im not going to argue with someone using yaoi logic card because it is a waste of time and just a bs

    FluffyKnight January 11, 2025 1:35 am
    this is so real. I only finished it because I started it, yk? qxzvtz

    I expected it to be really fluffy because there is someone who recommended it and it was in the users fluffy list.
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    FluffyKnight January 11, 2025 1:37 am
    THANK YOU, I thought I was going insane or something cause no one else was saying it but like, this is so clearly manipulative??? Why does the seme get mad when the uke decides he wants to be friends with benef... Moonpie

    Same thoughts!!

    Then after apologizing, they went to sex like it was the end point of what the ML wants and people find the ML as green flag??

    IV0RYDoVE January 11, 2025 3:11 am
    Sigh >.>'That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi. Do you know what the culture you're rea... Lanlala

    holy yap??

    Moonpie January 11, 2025 4:55 am
    i really needed a laugh today thank you keo

    Truly, I laughed several times today when reading this.

    keo January 11, 2025 6:41 am
    Truly, I laughed several times today when reading this. Moonpie

    seriously

    Stop It. Get Some Help. January 11, 2025 7:52 am
    Sigh >.>'That was your mistake. That's the mistake inexperienced people make when they come here thinking they're reading any adult romance fiction instead of yaoi. Do you know what the culture you're rea... Lanlala

    I’m with you. Why pick a battle when you damn know it’s YAOI. You wanna have healthy plot characters, choose SHOUNEN AI. I swear to God you guys just party pooper.

    Moonpie January 11, 2025 10:45 am
    I’m with you. Why pick a battle when you damn know it’s YAOI. You wanna have healthy plot characters, choose SHOUNEN AI. I swear to God you guys just party pooper. Stop It. Get Some Help.

    bruh, how is it wrong to not wanna see SA?? Like, genuinely when people make that argument, it sounds childish. Having a different standard for what you read (ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS ABOUT LITERAL RAPE) doesn't make you a party pooper, it's called having an opinion, bffr. You can enjoy both and find healthy relationships in BOTH.

    Stop It. Get Some Help. January 11, 2025 2:19 pm
    bruh, how is it wrong to not wanna see SA?? Like, genuinely when people make that argument, it sounds childish. Having a different standard for what you read (ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS ABOUT LITERAL RAPE) doesn't mak... Moonpie

    No one said it’s wrong to not wanna see SA? You argued with who? Personally I just tired seeing this kind argument for like thousands times. Why I said you guys party pooper because clearly you ain’t checking the tags before reading or worse.. see it but keep reading it anyway, then proceed to giving your so called opinion saying why people not see the SA or not saying anything about it in the comments? Bffr! They knew, we all knew because we read the damn tags and summary before reading you know? So who’s childish here. Having opinion on the story is fine, but you can do it without lowering or calling out people’s opinions.

    Moonpie January 11, 2025 4:38 pm
    No one said it’s wrong to not wanna see SA? You argued with who? Personally I just tired seeing this kind argument for like thousands times. Why I said you guys party pooper because clearly you ain’t checki... Stop It. Get Some Help.

    I'm someone who is able to read a story and not be triggered by SA but many aren't and rely on reviews and tags to make sure there is none. I checked my tags, there isn't a clearly visible tag or any warning on the chapters for SA, because it's not seen as such. It's okay for you to be tired of seeing the argument but perhaps there's a reason people keep saying it. I don't talk about my opinion to bring others down, I do it to let people who are triggered by SA topics that they are present when no one else is doing so.

    The original comment you replied to isn't even right in half of what they said, and I really want you to use your comprehension skills here. Yaoi is gay romance, quite literally. It's not a culture, it's a genre of reading and there can be portions good and bad, just like any other genre. Shounen ai can have themes of SA as well, no genre is safe from that but many of us who read yaoi make this argument over and over...and over again, because the reason that yaoi and BL have these themes is because of a lack of well written gay romance and understanding of how those relationships can be developed. Forced sex storylines are rampant and wanting to see change about that is something many readers ask for and yearn to see so we have to be vocal about it. Having a differing opinion doesn't mean you should just sit on the sidelines and be okay with something that bothers you. So, I'll keep being vocal about that opinion and if that makes people feel "called out" so be it, I'm not making that comment for them. ¯_(:/)_/¯

    FluffyKnight January 11, 2025 5:26 pm
    I'm someone who is able to read a story and not be triggered by SA but many aren't and rely on reviews and tags to make sure there is none. I checked my tags, there isn't a clearly visible tag or any warning on... Moonpie

    Periodt.

    Stop It. Get Some Help. January 11, 2025 5:34 pm
    I'm someone who is able to read a story and not be triggered by SA but many aren't and rely on reviews and tags to make sure there is none. I checked my tags, there isn't a clearly visible tag or any warning on... Moonpie

    That person is definitely right, Yaoi is in fact a japanese subculture. If you want to be an internet police or vocal to change something or whatever, you need to do a research before accusing someone opinion wrong, you definitely can google it. And please, may I suggest you make your own story if you really want to have an impact in this bl world? If you already do that. Good for you, I support you. Just remember, you know people on internet must be in legal age right? Which mean they are mature enough to know of what they are doing, including reading on internet that lack of informations such as SA.

    FluffyKnight January 11, 2025 5:47 pm
    I’m with you. Why pick a battle when you damn know it’s YAOI. You wanna have healthy plot characters, choose SHOUNEN AI. I swear to God you guys just party pooper. Stop It. Get Some Help.

    The fact that you think all shounen ai have healthy plot characters already dismiss your argument.

    There is even a psychological shounen ai and there is a REAL Fluffy Yaoi.

    The fact that people put this story in a fluffy list tells how they are turning a blind eye to sex manipulation, it is not even directly warned or tags similar to an SA, but you can find it everytime the ML wants to have seggs with the MC, but cant have his way.

    Im pointing out this manipulations because there is no tag or even comments talking about it

    Stop It. Get Some Help. January 11, 2025 5:59 pm
    The fact that you think all shounen ai have healthy plot characters already dismiss your argument. There is even a psychological shounen ai and there is a REAL Fluffy Yaoi.The fact that people put this story in... FluffyKnight

    Lol you don’t even understand what I’m mean. Let me clear it for you. I’m saying majority shounen ai plot are fluffy, while majority yaoi plot are not fluffy with mostly contain SA and such. I never said all shounen ai not contains any SA and such? I just giving a suggestion to all those people who get triggered need to just read shounen ai since it’s mostly more safe and don’t read Yaoi if the story contain lack of information. I don’t have the problem with you perspective.

    Stop It. Get Some Help. January 11, 2025 6:12 pm
    The fact that you think all shounen ai have healthy plot characters already dismiss your argument. There is even a psychological shounen ai and there is a REAL Fluffy Yaoi.The fact that people put this story in... FluffyKnight

    But I just want to let you know, you as a guy man need to understand that Yaoi create by women to women. Which mean most Yaoi is not a a best genre or place to have a good gay potray or represent, since in the beginning some say yaoi get create because freedom. Woman fantasize about in male homosexual relationships that do not require women is not a world in which women are suppressed, but rather a place where those women can reconstruct themselves by actively nullifying themselves.