Are we surprised?

Kingyo~hime January 10, 2025 1:34 am

Another popular BL that romanticizes r@pe and sexual assault. But it’s okay because the person that’s doing it is attractive. Disgusting.

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    BL-Anime.Yaoi January 10, 2025 10:00 pm

    Bro is not even attractive the art style is so mid and proportions are terrible

    SporkMuffin January 11, 2025 1:10 am

    In what way is it being romanticized?

    Fetishized? Sure. But romanticized? Are we even reading the same story?

    son of thors January 11, 2025 3:27 am
    In what way is it being romanticized?Fetishized? Sure. But romanticized? Are we even reading the same story? SporkMuffin

    It def is romanticized. It takes basic context clues to know that the ml is already developing some type of romantic feelings for the mc (and for no reason too aside from maybe his looks??) the mc hasn't shown anything of the sort but I've seen too many of these to not know where this is gonna go

    Kingyo~hime January 13, 2025 2:22 pm
    In what way is it being romanticized?Fetishized? Sure. But romanticized? Are we even reading the same story? SporkMuffin

    You say that like that’s somehow better. You’re basically saying, “Well, it doesn’t romanticize rape, it only fetishizes it.” Like that’s supposed to be a valid point. Are you good???

    SporkMuffin January 13, 2025 9:01 pm
    You say that like that’s somehow better. You’re basically saying, “Well, it doesn’t romanticize rape, it only fetishizes it.” Like that’s supposed to be a valid point. Are you good??? Kingyo~hime

    Are you having trouble understanding basic English?

    I never said that it was better, only that it was different.

    Kingyo~hime January 14, 2025 2:46 am
    Are you having trouble understanding basic English?I never said that it was better, only that it was different. SporkMuffin

    You’re arguing semantics when either way my point still stands. Whether you view it as romantic or a fetish, both are equally disgusting. The r@pist took the time to care for the MC after r@ping him. Literally just read Chap. 10. Its clear where the story is going. The whole r@pe to romance plot point is overused in BLs to the point where it’s predictable. So like I said, this story romanticizes rape and it’s disgusting. The fact ur arguing this is hella weird on ur part but I’m not surprised

    sarcasticpotato January 15, 2025 4:08 pm

    This doesnt romanticize rape, this pornifies rape. Turns it into a fap material, a kink, a fetish. Those two things are different things. If you want to argue about porn, talk about porn.

    JulyInAugust January 15, 2025 4:42 pm
    This doesnt romanticize rape, this pornifies rape. Turns it into a fap material, a kink, a fetish. Those two things are different things. If you want to argue about porn, talk about porn. sarcasticpotato

    Thank you !

    JulyInAugust January 15, 2025 4:52 pm
    You’re arguing semantics when either way my point still stands. Whether you view it as romantic or a fetish, both are equally disgusting. The r@pist took the time to care for the MC after r@ping him. Literall... Kingyo~hime

    No, arguing semantics is right because you're wrong. Like seriously romanticizing it would be if they made the ml rape him out of love and mc acknowledge it as love. I'm sure you've read those trash stories before.
    Fetishizing however is just making something that isn't sexual into something of sexual interest. Which isn't the case here either since rape cannot be not sexual.

    So you're both wrong. Neither is done in this story. What this story is doing is having a rape kink.

    Kingyo~hime January 15, 2025 5:11 pm
    No, arguing semantics is right because you're wrong. Like seriously romanticizing it would be if they made the ml rape him out of love and mc acknowledge it as love. I'm sure you've read those trash stories bef... JulyInAugust

    Let’s say that I 100% agree with you. How is having a story blatantly display a “rape kink” not disgusting and morally wrong? Frame it however you want whether you romanticize it, fetishize it, or view it as a kink, it’s disgusting. Like I said, you’re arguing semantics when either way these types of “stories” are completely disgusting. Just because they are not real people doesn’t make these acts less deplorable. Maybe you enjoy stories that have rape as a plot point, but justifying it is just weird. Also, what you said makes no sense. Rape is literally forcing an unwilling party to have sex. In some cases, it is not, but in this case it is overtly sexual. You agreed with someone who said this “pornifies rape”. If this story “pornifies rape” how is it not also sexualizing it???

    JulyInAugust January 15, 2025 6:31 pm
    Let’s say that I 100% agree with you. How is having a story blatantly display a “rape kink” not disgusting and morally wrong? Frame it however you want whether you romanticize it, fetishize it, or view it... Kingyo~hime

    Liking something bad happening to fictional characters is wrong ? Then is everyone who like tragedies, psychological or horror movies morally bankrupt too ? They like seeing people suffer too. And those who enjoys revenge tropes ? Romantic angst ? All of those require the characters to suffer.
    But we all acknowledge that just because you enjoy those kind of stories doesn't mean you wish to enact anything from it or would enjoy it happening in real life so why is porn different ? What got people so twisted about it ?
    Like I understand not liking it and finding it disgusting, that's totally normal to feel that way about kinks that aren't your own. What I don't get is the judgment and hatred toward people enjoying theirs. In my eyes you're the sick one for kink shaming people and acting like it have anything to do with morals.
    It's because it's fiction that it's okay, because no real person is actually being raped and will have to deal with the trauma and emotional burden or consequences and it won't impact real life people, plus except in a psychological or horror story they're guaranteed to be fine in the end and will physically and mentally recover from anything. So you can enjoy the rape, abuse or torture without the downside of reality (downside being it being real).

    That being said I agree that romanticizing rape is wrong. Presenting it as something that can be done out of love is just disgusting and not okay, rape is about power and control and presenting it as something else is concerning as it's not about the act itself but the distorted vision of it. If this story go down this road at some point I'm gonna drop it so fast. But so far it's not the case, and them falling in love is fine-ish as long as they don't use it to justify rape.

    To answer your last question: It's already sexual, you can't make sex more sexual. To sexualize something it have to be inherently non-sexual. Pornofying is just presenting it a certain unrealistic way, like not having to clean the ass of poop, skipping prep or not stretching enough, lasting for hours and hours, not using lube, the angle and positions always looking pretty, showing the inside... those kind of things that don't work or aren't possible in reality.

    Kingyo~hime January 15, 2025 9:40 pm
    Liking something bad happening to fictional characters is wrong ? Then is everyone who like tragedies, psychological or horror movies morally bankrupt too ? They like seeing people suffer too. And those who enj... JulyInAugust

    Some things just can’t be passed over as a simple “kink”. I agree with you that people are allowed to have their own personal preferences when it comes down to sex or sexu@l acts. But at some point, it gets too far. For example, there are several mangas and manhwas that depict literal children engaging in sexu@l acts. Some people may view that as a kink and nothing else. So because it’s fictional, it’s completely normal and acceptable??Having r@pe a kink with a consenting party is fine. But depicting a man being kidnapped, beaten, starved, and raped for “fap material” is BEYOND disgusting. If this storyline followed a child instead of an adult man, would you still feel the same way?

    To answer ur first question, it all depends on the plot and context. For example, there are several depictions of torture, horror, and revenge that reflect real-world experience from people. Even if they don’t reflect real-world experience, the story is well-rounded and explains the importance of those elements. Dramas like The Glory or movies like 12 years a slave are 2 examples. They both are mostly fictional, and contain most of the elements you talked about. The difference is that they tell actual stories and don’t use trauma for “shock value” or “fap material”. They understand that these are serious and deeply traumatic.

    The entire purpose of a horror movie is shock value. Even so, they use an actual storyline and don’t completely rely on “shock value”. I guarantee you a horror movie with an actual storyline would do better in theaters than a horror movie with no plot and literally only gore scenes.

    So having elements of trauma in a film, dramatization, manga, or manhwa isn’t inherently wrong. It’s how those elements are used that make it questionable. Also, comparing someone who enjoys reading romantic angst to a person who enjoys reading about rape is completely different and you know it. Those are incomparable.

    If you view me as disgusting for thinking people who like rape are weird, I couldn’t care less. That says more about you than it does about me. Have all the kinks you want, I really don’t care. But when you put them in a story on a public forum, you should expect mixed reactions. Once again, this “story” is disgusting.