Another one in the trashcan. The heck was that "isn't one's life more important than famil...

That’s YOUR opinion. Let me remind you that every person’s family is different, not everyone is blessed with a caring family. And if you think abandoning a child is responsible and part of “staking your future”… gosh the fact that people can’t sympathize with Inwoo is crazy. And you’re also forgetting that romantic relationships aren’t always sexual, they can be just as strong as family bonds, so I just don’t get it. Your moral doesn’t apply everywhere, your experience is obviously different so why are you speaking on topics like family if you aren’t familiar with these issues?

Ignore the idiots in your replies. They don't need a response, they need help. You are so based for saying this. Thank you for saying this.

I was gonna check this story out. Thanks to your comment I now know it will be that kind of a story. I seriously hate that romance genre writers casually keep demeaning families and friendships and putting trivial sexual associations above them. You want tension and competition in your story, do it among romantic relationships. Do not involve people's family and friends, unless it is to show romantic relationships peacefully co-existing in their right place in the hierarchy below one's family and friends. You are right. I have read so many shoujos and even some shounen that depict a romantic relationship during the story, that could teach these yaoi guys a thing or two about how to write a romantic relationship when you also want to include the characters' families and friendships in the plot.

Nothing and no one supersedes family. Romantic relationships are such a small part of your life and you have so many people, so many obligations, so much to live for that is far more important than that. We, as a society, need to get out of centuries of patriarchal indoctrination that the sexual association between a man and a woman should take priority. That mate-control, monogamy bullshit was forced on people to serve andro-centric, patrilineal reproductive interests and the administrative interests of a patriarchal society. That is not a natural reality of human condition. The bond between a primary caretaker, usually the mother, and the child, is the core unit of human society.

The whole reason that we are social creatures at all are for the sake of acquiring and maintaining kinship bonds. We need people to stop taking those kinship bonds for granted. Stop abusing the love and loyalty that your family holds for you.

Any problematic statistic that you bring up about familial arrangements are several times more problematic for romantic arrangements. If you can compromise for years and years to stay with an unrelated peer in a relationship where you are constantly treated like a child, expected to give up many of your freedoms, expected to grant privileged access to your household, your whereabouts, your social life, your professional life and your finances, don't whine when you are expected to do that for your own goddamn flesh and blood. Don't demonize getting treated like a child by your parents and then romanticize getting treated like a child by a stranger.

If you expect your parents, siblings, children, other members of your family and friends to be there for you no matter what, then you need to do the same for them. If you keep treating them as expendable stepping stones, then it is in their best interests to cut you off. People just bet on the fact that for a parent, to cut off a child, is easily one of the cruelest decisions they can be forced to make, so people keep trying to test the boundaries confident that they can ultimately force their parents to compromise. Stop thinking of that as okay or that you're entitled to act like that. You want to enjoy your privileges as a part of your family? You better start fulfilling your duties to them.

Bffr this is just you on another account literally created an account today. How sad

What story is this that has u so angry, for educational purposes <3~
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LMAOOO THEY DID

you have never been wronged by your family and it shows

Bruh, dude just drop it. You don't need to write an essay then create a fake account then reply to defend your own comment with another essay. Get a life, man.

I know why lol it’s bc BL is made by women for other women, gay men have never been in the equation and you’re absolutely right to be upset. For now all I can recommend is to look up BLs that were written by men bc personally those haven’t disappointed me yet

I understand and agree with your statement but I think what that person was trying to say is that you shouldn’t need a partner to fix you, even if your bond is equal to a platonic friend’s or family it can easily become unhealthy and lead to total codependency. You shouldn’t be unable to live without your lover and that is what was happening in the story for a bit. My point is that psychologically speaking it’s a bad idea to fully rely on your lover and if you do it’s incredibly easy for the relationship to turn toxic. I disagree with their views on family though

I think that outside the whole obsession they seem to have with family they actually do have a point. Although that point can be made with romance in general it’s most prominent in BL. Saying “bffr” and nothing else is kind of pointless like this person wrote 150 words of argumentation and all you have is mockery that they might’ve made a new account? I don’t fully agree with anyone here but both sides are acting incredibly immature (including the ones you’re disagreeing with I’m not trying to diss you here)

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preach bestie

While I appreciate your perspective, it seems they didn't engage with my response at all. I said that everyone's situation is unique, and their definition of family may not apply to everyone. They just expanded on their own ideas about the nature of social creatures and whatnot. And while I UNDERSTAND their viewpoint, it feels more like trolling than a genuine discussion (they literally created an account to say that they’re right?? And then wrote books about how I shouldn’t whine about my family, IGNORING what I said about every family being different) Given that they aren't genuinely debating or arguing for that matter, I don’t rlly see why I should respond with anything more than that. Sorry for being immature

Right, agreed. If it was worded like that I would’ve applauded. The thing that irked me was the whole ‘family is everything’ stuff

HELPPPPPP the dedication tho

what an odd thing to say. a big part of why mc even considered leaving his family was because of the fact that he was gay, which is a core part of his identity, something that makes him who he is. not being able to be honest about that without being judged, to someone so essential in your life is absolutely exhausting and would mess you up. you wouldn't say the same if it was a friend who was in that position, because obviously who would want to be friends with someone who can't accept who you are? I'm not saying that a friend and family are in the same position, but it's the same principle. in fact, it might be worse, because a family isn't a choice and they're irreplaceable. if they can't even love you for you, how the fuck do you expect to be happy?

I’m not gonna pretend that I didn’t zone out reading most of this long paragraph. But I do want to just give my two cents. I work at a counseling center in the front office. And I see countless children, who were failed/abandoned by their mothers and fathers, their parents are either in jail or no longer in the picture. And now these poor children are left with this trauma, and unresolved loneliness, because their parents were selfish, and only thought about themselves. Can you for a minute imagine being a young child, your mother the person who is supposed to take care of you just abandons you. Like why did she get to escape the abuse, but Inwoo didn’t. The fact you can’t even empathize with Inwoo, who at a young age was abandoned by his mother, and abused by his father is a bit concerning. All I know is, Inwoo is allowed to be selfish with his mother, just like she selfishly left him behind. A family is not just limited to your birth parents/blood. Anyone can be your family, if you choose them to be. I hardly talk to my family, and I do just fine.

If there was an argument to be won you would’ve won solely based on how you handled this situation tbh the other person had like one or two good points but fully ruined them with their behaviour. I’m guessing this person had a rough day and took it out on a random manhwa they happened to read

Me too oml that truly got to me. Some people have families that are shit people.. Sometimes having them around is WORSE. Within context as well Inwoo’s father was the most abusive piece of shit there’s no way it would’ve been better with him around

LMFAOO