idk man.
Shouldn’t he be the one getting therapy rather than try to drag other people into his drug filled life style???
Like I get his life is filled with shit but I literally can not stand druggies who try to drag other people into their mess especially with someone who had abusive drug addict parents who caused their only child to have ptsd.
Call me us sympathetic but the dude can get therapy or self loath in a room instead of doing all this.
Unsympathetic **
If it would work like that then we would not have any drugs addicts ín the world.
But unfortunately getting and accepting help is not as easy as it may sound.
Your comment is a perfect example of victim blaming.
lol hate to break it to you but the only way itd be victim blaming is if someone forced drugs into his system but that doesn’t seem to be the case and him doing drugs (from what he know) was a choice.
Well, before the truth will set you free itll piss you off (-:
I REALLY AGREE ヾ(☆▽☆)
Who's he dragging into his lifestyle tho? Jin? Who could just walk out of the room whenever he wants and it's not like Jian forces him into doing anything or the men who he's fucking who seems worse than him and are just there to take advantage of money and connections? I'm really sorry that happened to you but we haven't actually seen Jian harm anyone except himself here with his addiction. Even when he was slapped by his mother while he was high he didn't even react so obviously he's not violent. He's just using it as a coping mechanism to numb his emotions, we literally see him turn to drugs right after finding out who his real father is.
It's not easy for addicts to just get therapy when there's no one there to care for them or to convince them to what to do, Jian has no one who gives a shit about him. Jin is set on ruining his life with his plan, Jitae is distant, mother is abusive, granpa or other family member doesn't care, no relation with bio dad, sex friends who are there to just use him.
Even when he refused the drugs in one of the previous chapters Hajoon just forcefully barged into his room, he's using Jian as his lab rat for his drugs and keeps giving him higher and higher doses while not informing him what he's been taking.
Some addicts do want to get better when their situations improve but Jian's situation here got a lot worse than it was before so I'm expecting him to want to get better himself right now. He's in his 30s with a job but still getting abused by his mother since he was a child, he probably feels like there's no help and he'll never get away from the life he has now. I just feel sad for him.
He dragged Mi-eum into this mess, even in the first chapter.
You can feel bad for him if you want, noones stopping you but I definitely wouldn’t call what I said victim blaming lol
I feel like people are forgetting that he’s the one who brought Mieum there in the first place
That has nothing to do with his addiction though, people don't care about it much since technically he's the one who bought Jitae and Mieum together.
Isn't most of what he's doing are under his mother's orders? And he got punished in chapter 42 because he disobeyed her and in his own words because Jian felt bad for Mieum.
I think he can't show it too much but he cares for Jitae, evidently he has been suspecting that Jin is betraying him and his mother for Jitae for a while but he still hasn't reported to his mother about it yet.
Jin telling Jitae to hurt Jian to the point that he even would want to forget Jitae's name hints that Jian does care for Jitae deeply. And we didn't even see him getting distraught about losing his position in the company, but we see him spiraling like this after finding out about his bio dad.
I don't believe he's inherently a bad person like most in the comments seem to believe, he was clearly a sweet and helpful teenager and his change is due to him being a victim to his circumstances and his family imo.
The only reason she didn't hit him too many times in ch42 is due to Jin reminding her that he has a meeting soon, he's puppet in this feud between her mother and Jitae.
Let's not make it as though he's innocent in all of this just because his circumstances are regretful. He has his own circumstances and that's understandable but the things that he's done whether it's out of the goodness of his heart or not, it still hurt innocent people. He dragged an innocent person INTO THIS and beat him up. Beating up Mi-eum was not necessary.
And no I'm not victim blaming him because I understand what he's going through. I understand that therapy might not have helped him or anything but it's not a lie to say that his condition is his own doing, it was just instigated by those around him. You can't fault other people for not liking him because as if it's not clear enough, he's not as innocent not blameless as you think.
Some are going too far for victim blaming, yes but to dismiss what the other victim had gone through physically and emotionally is not right either and saying it as if we should be grateful that Jitae and Mi Eum are together because of him is not right either. It dismisses everything that Mi Eum has gone through.
Nowhere in my comment did I call him innocent in any way, I said his change is due to his circumstances while he was sweet as a child. I just listed the instances where he showed he's not complete evil and that he cares for Jitae(he has not said it with his words but I mentioned the reasons why I think so) and when he felt bad for Mieum and that he's unquestionably working under his mothers orders who abused his whole life. These are not just my speculations but what we were shown in the manhwa. Him not telling his mother about Jin's betrayal and us not seeing him being angry losing his position are also facts.
I did not give my opinions about him kidnapping Mieum but just disagreed with the previous commentor that it was not the result of his addiction, which was the main point of our debate. I see now how my comment made you think I excuse his behavior because he bought the main couple together but I meant that this is the reason other people don't bring it up much even when writing Jian hate comments lol.
I'm not excusing his actions cause it was inexcusable but saying he did not those things in his own will is also true as he lied to his mother about Mieum being dead. What condition being his own doing do you mean btw?
I don't care if people hate him but I dislike how people just reduce his character to a druggie and whore and ignore his abuse just because they hate his character. I don't care if people don't feel sympathy for him because of his actions but it would be better if people at least empathize that he's turning to these vices due to what he went through.
I don't think of him as completely blameless just because I was defending him in my comments lol, I didn't blame him or backtracked there because what's the point when every other comments are people calling him all kinds of names and just generally hating him.
If y'all don't have empathy for jian, then get therapy and try to be a human being first.