I don’t know if you think like this just because it’s a fictional character, but if you feel this way about real people too, then that’s honestly weird and wrong. It’s slut-shaming, especially since the character is canonically responsible and wears a condom.and don’t get me wrong I don’t give a flying fuck about the character in itself, my issue is with the mindset behind comments like this
It is true he likely has an STD, no amount of condoms will help if you sleep with a different person every day or every week. STDs are also transmitted by kissing and oral sex (bodily fluids). I don’t think having an STD is shameful or that stating that somebody has it is slut shaming. Moreover, it is also true that hyper sexuality can be considered a symptom of a mental illness. He can’t control himself.
And see that’s how you spread harmful stereotypes and contributes to a culture of shame and judgment around sexuality…
practicing safe sex is important and he does it having multiple partners does not automatically mean someone has a "ton of diseases." Matter of fact the risk is not even tied to the number of partners alone it’s linked to unsafe sexual practices, like not using protection or not getting regularly tested. (And we don’t shut about that test thing) assuming someone have an std just because they’re sexually active is slutshaming NO MATTER how you put it lmaooo
Also comments like this strip away a person’s humanity by reducing them to their sexual behavior, bcs no having sex with a person and a threesome with two other the next day does not make you mentally ill that’s not how it works. Hypersexuality involves compulsive behavior, distress, or impairment in daily functioning. Simply having multiple partners, or enjoying frequent consensual sex, doesn’t mean someone is hypersexual or mentally unwell.
You’re believing in the stereotype that sexual activity outside of social norms (threesome, one night stand…) is inherently linked to mental illness and it’s weird and harmful
claiming that someone has an STD based on their sexual behavior reinforces harmful stereotypes about promiscuity and sexual health. It suggests that being sexually active or having multiple partners inherently leads to disease, which is false and stigmatizing
Though your point is coherent, it seems you struggle to see the other person of interest’s perspective. Sleeping with MULTIPLE partners, especially as frequently as every day or week, increases the likelihood of contracting STDs. No precaution, not even consistent condom use, can completely eliminate the risks (Nothing can really eliminate the risks with how it’s already basically a lifestyle to the ML even while being a high schooler), especially since STDs can also be spread through kissing and oral sex, which still involve the exchange of bodily fluids. Pointing out that someone likely has an STD in this context isn’t inherently slut-shaming—it’s a realistic acknowledgment of the risks tied to these behaviors.
On top of that, hypersexuality—where he struggles to control their sexual urges—can absolutely be a symptom of deeper mental health struggles, like bipolar disorder or trauma. This isn’t just about personal choices or enjoying a sexually open lifestyle; it’s compulsive behavior that often brings distress and disrupts everyday life. There’s a big difference between HEALTHY sexual exploration and behavior that hints at unresolved emotional or psychological pain.
Moreover the ML’s history of violence—harassing and physically abusing the guy he presumably had a “CRUSH” on is very clearly set. These actions show a serious lack of self-control and empathy, pointing to issues that go far beyond hypersexuality. While I know everyone deserves understanding and compassion, brushing off these behaviors as 'just liberated' or 'normal' dismisses the harm they cause to others and ignores the reality that the ML might actually need serious help to address their mental health and how they treat the people around them. :)
Him being a terrible person has NOTHING to do with you slut-shaming him for being sexually active and basing your entire argument on stereotypes that having multiple partners automatically means someone has mental issues or an STD. Saying someone might have mental health problems because they act impulsively and hurt others is not the same as saying, “having sex with three people in two days = mental illness.” And that was LITERALLY what your original post was about.
And where in hell did you even get this idea that the MC has been having sex like this since high school???? That’s not true at all mind you… Sex was only mentioned twice in the two chapters , and he was already a grown ass man. And btw, you can’t spread most STDs through kissing. The only thing you might pass is something like herpes simplex virus 1, which isn’t even considered an STD unless it involves genital infections.
You’re making assumptions about someone’s health and mental state solely based on their sex life, and that’s the definition of slut-shaming which was literally what I was pointing out in the first place. You didn’t say shit about his behavior outside of his sex life in your OG post, so trying to bring it up now is literally just you backtracking.
You could have just took the L and that’s all lmaoo didn’t have to go and change your whole og point
Oh, but it truly is necessary to mention. Once again; criticizing someone's sex life based on their choices or the number of partners they have isn’t necessarily slut-shaming—it can be a valid concern if those patterns are connected to reckless behavior or emotional instability, especially when those actions have a direct impact on others. It’s not about judging someone for being sexually active or enjoying their freedom; it’s about looking at the bigger picture and understanding how their choices might reflect deeper issues. If the story frames those actions as causing harm or being part of a larger problem, then pointing that out isn’t an attack on their sexuality but an effort to explore the consequences of their behavior. Just because I mentioned this doesn’t mean i'm backtracking or trying to change my point—it might simply just be an attempt to provide a more nuanced perspective. Moreover doesn't it VERY CLEARLY visualize the set of HIGHSCHOOL CLASSROOMS AND UNIFORMS associated with HAVING SEX instead of doing HOMEWORK? It's quite literally so obvious, i'm apalled you've been defending a character without obviously understanding the true depth of their emotions. ┗( T﹏T )┛
Actually, while most STDs aren’t spread through kissing, saying herpes simplex virus 1 (HSV-1) isn’t an STD unless it’s genital isn’t accurate. HSV-1 can be sexually transmitted through oral-genital contact and is increasingly common in such cases. Kissing can also spread infections like syphilis if there’s an active sore, so while the risk is lower, it’s not zero. ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
I already said I don’t give a flying fuck about the character, lmao. My issue is with y’all’s mindset. If you think like that about a fictional character, there’s a good chance you think the same way about real people, and that’s just wrong. If you want to be obtuse and act like what you both did wasn’t slut-shaming, then fine, but don’t make it everyone else’s problem. You were both wrong and shouldn’t have spread stereotypes or contributed to slut-shaming. Even if y’all comments were directed at a fictional character, the mindset behind them has real-world implications and reinforces harmful societal issues. That could influence people into thinking that slut-shaming is ok, or that assuming someone have STD’s because they have multiple partners is normal
Tbh I seriously don't understand your pov at all. We agree we're all reading bl and smut on this site, but when it comes to defend principles, why do you defend that type of behaviors so much? I don't want to assume anything but that's just weird.
Do you know that your entitlement for people to not slut shaming promiscuity has contributed in this day and age to risky sexual behaviors like Lily Philipps' and Bonnie Blue of OF, who had slept with hundreads dudes and want to do with a thousand next. You must be so proud of them, I bet.
They're must be so liberated from your perspective. The problem is these health hazards of persons may influence other young girls to do the same things, supported by individuals like you who hold high this discourse.
Though if we look a bit, we can find in the comment sections of YT podcast on Lily's and Bonnie's cases, people telling how they regret sleeping around when they were younger and how they caught sexual diseases (HPV, cervix cancer...), how that had destroyed their life...
We all contribute to make this society to our image, so what will happen if instead of defending qualities like virtues and prudence, caution, we're defending instead promiscuity, fornicationand, therefore the spread of potential stds?
Maybe because slut-shaming is literally rooted in misogyny??? Do you know how many women have been assaulted, harmed, or even killed for being labeled a ‘whore’? It’s not about the character, it’s about the mindset. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I don’t give a single fuck about anyone’s sexual activities, and I certainly don’t know or care about the random people you mentioned.
Slut-shaming isn’t just ‘defending principles’, it’s spreading harmful stereotypes and contributing to violence against women. If you think defending someone’s right to make their own choices without judgment equals endorsing risky behavior, that’s on you, not me. I genuinely couldn’t care less if you agree with me or not lmaoo, but slut-shaming is wrong, period.
Discrimination against what?? Are you yourself ok in your head when you say this? Oh goshh... You can't be serious... :o
We're not speaking about purity or that girls should keep their virginity and wait for marriage ; this society has gone way past that mindset and we've reached a level of depravity and loss of morals that now threaten the well being of humankind.
You impress no one and you defend no values here, if anything you contribute to the ruin of our society.
Ever heard of these people who contaminate purposely their partners with HIV? There's regularly reports on it on Google, why won't you take a look at it?
Promiscuous people have a higher chance to transmit and catch std by the number of people they're sleeping with, the frequence of it, and their lack of boundaries towards sex. Sometimes they practice safe sex, and sometimes they don't. That's explained by the nature of their sexual behaviors that's often related to mental troubles or addiction.
You know well that you don't have any pertinent nor valid argument to support your narrative, aside the "Slut shaming is wrooong", yet you're still here defending the undefendable.
It's almost funny how you seem so ENTITLED for people to not slut-shaming sluts and hoes, when these individuals can only show the lowest of what humankind is capable of.
You and these persons still expect from people respect, passivity and indulgence while showing only shameful, risky behaviors that can be harmful. Aren't you too delusional? Respect needs to be gained and deserved.
Surely your parents have taught you about basic shame and decency, what's good to do and bad to avoid. You think that letting promiscuous persons sleeping around and supporting/coundoning their actions is helping them? No, it's not.
You justify slut-shaming by attributing to mysoginy. There were certainly a period like that, and it's not the subject here, but what you fail to see is that promiscuity is neither good for women or men, particularly at this extend. It's not better when it's women or men or vice-versa and there's nothing grandiose about it.
What I've noticed is that you flip-flop and twist your narrative a lot, which makes it practically not possible to discuss about such topic bc you're not consistant in your affirmations. You lead people on, you brought problematics, but when they confront you on these, you have no argument and end up telling: "I don't care about... but it's wrong to slut-shame!"
For ex, you spoke about IRL people. I gave you exemples of real people behaving like sluts (Lily P. and Bonnie B.) and the consequences of sleeping around, only for you to tell me: "I don't know and or care about these people...". You said the same things about Joowon, telling he's just a fictional characters and that you don't care. If you don't care of these people, why do you even care about this topic?
That's why you're not consistant.
Lastly, you should definitely try to know who are Lily P. and Bonnie B. bc they're the kinds you like to defend despite all. They also claim to be 'feminists'. Lmao.
I don't see the point in continying this convo, as I think no one will change their opinion anyway. Just wanted to give more of my perspectives on this subject.
Nigga stfu you’re weird ash…
« shaming sluts and hoes, when these individuals can only show the lowest of what humankind is capable of » all this over sex lmaooo go see therapists or something. Hearing you talk, one would think you're describing a rapist or a murderer, not someone simply having a sexual life…
I don’t want to have a conversation with someone calling women slut and whore
I just don’t understand why MC likes that trashy guy. Like he beats up another guy because he likes him and has sex with everything that moves!??? He probably has STDs. He also genuinely doesn’t look good, MC is out of his league.