My bad they werent a gay couple. They just like feminine men... Like really
HAHA you don't even know what you are talking about nor this book, look at @numb gay's reads they're calling the basher homophobic meanwhile they consider themselves a hardcore fujoshi, that's a fetisher at it's core.
The basher didn't do anything wrong for them to be called homophobic for such statement, all they said was that it was weird, and tons of people came jumping at them calling them transphobic when that was not even an I'll intention from them.
That's what I'm calling childish please you said you don't even read this weird manhwa so why are you still arguing.
Read my shits again, you are wasting your fingers talking all that shit for such a simple statement.
The basher has every right to find something weird don't they? But accusing them of being transphobic is harsh and anyone who thinks so are out of their motherfucking minds.
You valid concern is just you trying to be so morally right for something so minim the fact that you're doing all this under an omegaverse manhwa is just dumbass behavior.
All @numb gay reads is straight up gay porn full of rape and that's who I was bashing in the first place but you came on talking shit to me as if I was even talking to you
"I fear you did not clock it" and you explained a bunch of nothing trying so hard to prove the "basher" is transphobic when tons of other people don't agree with you.
YOU.ARE.WRONG. they are not transphobic nor homophobic and I am not either. None of us are and that's what we've been trying to tell you since the beginning but your judgment of some people you don't know the fuck about in the internet is much more important to you.
Please stop this yapping as we've been doing this shut for a long while now, how many times do we have to tell you that we don't give a flying fuck about the world building of this manhwa, about omegaverse logic and such.
It's a dumb fiction about a guy getting raped and his child being one of the rapist, another victim x abuser manhwa normalized in this godforsaken world of bls
That's what's weird and wrong, that's what you should've started to yap about in the first place, leave the basement alone cause they didn't do shit, they didn't kill anybody calling when they said they found it weird that the omega male is being called "mom", it's not a transphobic view in the slightest and you might go on with your day to disagree but soon you'll realize that it wasn't that deep.
Sorry for the mistakes in spelling tho, *they didn't kill anybody when they said...
That's all please end this.
Ugghhhh did you even know the context of the argument in the first place, did you even read the manwha!?
I wasn't talking about numb gay... I was talking about the person them. Fujoshis aren't fetishizers they never were? If you read a straight smut story do you fetishize straight people? They can find something weird then if you're trying to make yourself seem like a good person. Even though something cannot be of I'll intent they can still be viewed as differently to others. You might not find it transphobic but it was. Transphobia can include fear, aversion, hatred, violence or anger towards people who do not conform to social gender roles.[1][2] Transphobia is a type of prejudice and discrimination, similar to racism, sexism, or ableism,[3] and it is closely associated with homophobia
You can look this definition up. Please look at the bashers original comment. In no way were they dictating an opinion. They were bashing.
I literally agree that love is an illusion is a bad story about rape, but getting angry about a child calling their cis parent mom is gonna get you backlash.
Numb gay literally made a good point. Why do people care that the son calls him mom? Making a "comeback" for something some clearly don't understand why another person is angry about it ridiculous.
I literally read it. I've pointed out many pages
Oh my bad you meant the other one. They like feminine men. A book doesn't make you attracted to something
bro there is a goddamn difference between being uncomfortable that a fictional man is being called mom and being uncomfortable that a trans man is being called mom.
this dude is a MAN, and these people are uncomfortable because yaoi has a history of feminizing and fetishizing men in BL so they find it uncomfortable. if you don't have any understanding of how much fetishizing yaoi has or if you want to pretend it doesn't exist, go ahead, but don't call everyone else a transphobe because you have some insane theory that only you believe in.
this thinking is NOT wrong. yaoi DOES fetishize men and there is NOTHING wrong with feeling uncomfortable if you read something as such. if someone links being called mom IN YAOI to every other work that fetishizes gay people IT'S NOT REALLY THEIR FAULT?
plus, if anything, THESE PEOPLE READ THIS GUY AS A DUDE.
yeah I don't want to hear your random idea that omegaverse is some mega hypothetical trans representative story, because that's still YOUR opinion. THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK. Most people GODDAMN don't.
DID THESE PEOPLE SAY THEY THINK THIS WAY IRL?
DID THESE PEOPLE SAY THEY CARED WHAT IRL PEOPLE CALLED THEMSELVES AS?
look if you are cis MAN and you want to call yourself a mom, IDGAF DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. THAT'S YOUR LIFE AND YOUR CHOICE.
But again, to get it through your thick head, IF IT'S IN YAOI, because yaoi has a history of fetishizing gay men, it DOES feel awkward to read it especially when you read omegaverse normally like the rest of us and assume the male omegas is first and foremost a male. which must be novel to you.
You forcing some irl perspective on a bunch of people WHO AREN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT IRL is just straight up moronic because that's a clusterfuck of a extension to make when someone complains about a goddam fictional character.
what you goddamn READ isn't always a reflection of irl.
what you goddamn dislike or like in FICTIONAL SERIES isn't always a reflection of what you dislike or like IRL.
YOU forcing everyone into IRL to prove their point about A FICTIONAL SERIES is transphobic, is just ignoring EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF FACT about yaoi as a genre as a whole.
NO ONE was talking about irl, YOU kept on bringing it up.
So based on your theory, if my favourite character is a hitman, does that mean I support killing people???
so if my favourite character is a terrorist, I want to bomb the world?
what kind of stupid logic is that?
are you thinking?
or are your ears stuck underwater and the only thing you can hear is the sound of your own voice in your head?
are you even reading what people were saying?
or did you just want to call everyone a transphobe for the heck of it?
did you even have a thought process before you started to drag EVERYONE into IRL when no one knew you were talking about IRL?
did you slowly drop your braincells with every word you typed?
or did you even have braincells to begin with?
I'm so sick of you trying to force everyone into some weird ass perspective that to this date NO ONE understands except you.
IF ANYTHING that doesn't mean WE aren't educated, it means YOU SUCK AT EXPLAINING SHIT.
Instead of accusing everyone of something that's straight up YOUR OPINION, why don't you first ASK THEM FOR THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND ASK THEM POLITELY WHAT THEY MEANT AND WHY THEY MIGHT HAVE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE.
Instead of STRAIGHT UP CALLING PEOPLE TRANSPHOBIC, why don't you BOTHER to give people some leeway and ASK what they mean.
BECAUSE NO ONE MEANT THAT SHIT IN IRL. ONLY YOU.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SHOVING IRL INTO FICTION LIKE SOME 12 YEAR OLD YAOI READER WHO THINKS ALL GAY MEN HAD EXPANDABLE ASSHOLES.
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IRL??
TO THIS POST, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I REALIZED YOU WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IRL.
BRO.
YOU SUCK AT EXPLAINING THIS SHIT.
If NO ONE NOT EVEN OTHER TRANS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WTF YOU ARE GOING ON ABOUT, MAYBE IT'S YOUR PROBLEM?
Maybe, there's something you aren't communicating well?
No, what do you do? YOU START PISSING ON OTHER PEOPLE TELLING THEM TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES AND SAYING THAT THEY'RE TRANSPHOBES.
Oh but dw, you do in it the most "polite" way possible, no you sb, that's not called being polite, that's called being condescending.
IF THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO SAY IS YOUR REPTITIOUS NONSENSE THEORY THAT NO ONE UNDERSTANDS EXCEPT YOURSELF, GO HOME.
IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU HAVE THE EXPRESSION SKILLS OF A ONE YEAR OLD.
AND IT'S NOT OUR FAULT YOU CAN'T EVEN BOTHER TO ASK PEOPLE WHAT THEY MEAN BEFORE CALLING THEM TRANSPHOBES.
NO, you did NOT explain shit AT ALL.
YOU threw TRANSPHOBE, gave some extremely confusing inference that doesn't even work, and then just told people to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.
MIKEN1097 YOU OMEGEVERSE SIMP, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF ON HOW TO EXPLAIN THINGS PROPERLY AND GO EDUCATE YOURSELF ON WHY THROWING THE GODDAMN TRANSPHOBE WORD LIKE THIS IS A BUZZFEED ARTICLE IS A SHITTY IDEA IN THE GODDAMN FIRST PLACE.
SMH.
WHAT GOOD POINT!?!? THAT HARDCORE FUJOSHI JUST CALLED THE PERSON HOMOPHOBIC LIKE THEY'RE RIGHT BUT THEY'RE NOT!?
Answer me clearly, WHAT makes them homophobic.
WHAT are you talking about dude, WE ARE NOT ON THE SAME POINT.
I DON'T CARE YOU'RE WRONG, WE ARE NOT HOMOPHOBIC OR TRANSPHOBIC END OF DISCUSSION. YOU ARE DUMB. DID YOU EVEN READ ANYTHING OF WHAT I WAS SAYING.
Girl stfu now you're trying to teach me about the meaning of fetisher
You are wrong, YOUR VIEW does not equal facts and that's the problem with arguing with you. U really are frustrating because you're convinced that you're right.
We have the fucking right to find it weird that a child is calling their male omega dad mom just because he birthed him, we're not transphobic for bashing the author because of that and we will never be both matter what you say.
EXACTLY THEY KEEP TALKING SHIT FOR NO REASON AT ALL
THE WHOLE ENTIRE POINT OF MINE WAS THAT IT'S NOT EVEN HOMOPHOBIC OR TRANSPHOBIC
THEY'RE WRONG AND THEY REFUSE TO REALIZE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST LIKE THAT ON THE FUCKING INTERNET
JUDGING AND JUDGING AND CALLING PEOPLE WHATEVER JUST BECAUSE IT "FEELS" LIKE IT UGHHHHHH.
... Are you actually listening to yourself? How is the term mom making you uncomfortable. You literally said he was a fictional man?... So explain to me why it makes someone uncomfortable and what was the need to get angry that the author called a fictional man mom? I am not an omegaverse simp... I literally like fantasy no matter the matter. no need to start using caps. If I suck at explaining I recommend you read and actually dissect how the world building works. No matter what fiction especially traits like biological sex and discrimination still exists? Fiction doesn't excuse the lack of understanding towards a certain subject especially something that also impacts the real world
You seem happy because you are in a binary, some of us are not? Some of us aren't happy with the label. A label is a label. They made it quite clear that their angry it's a cis man
No need to scream. Someone's angry that they don't understand that gender is a social construct
I said transphobic. The thought that because their a cis man they cannot be called man.
"i mute this and im still called transphobic for disliking a cis man being called mom lmao? crazy wild shit. no matter how you put it calling a cis man mom is fucking weird. "
"i mute this and im still called transphobic for disliking a cis man being called mom lmao? crazy wild shit. no matter how you put it calling a cis man mom is fucking weird. " Explain how this doesn't promote gender ideology
You happily defend your friend who pushes gender ideology. "i mute this and im still called transphobic for disliking a cis man being called mom lmao? crazy wild shit. no matter how you put it calling a cis man mom is fucking weird. "
We got homophobic btches commenting under YAOI webtoon