There's no more arguments with you hun, you literally ignore every explanation sent to you and not realize where you're wrong. If even trans people can tell you're being extremely transphobic and illiterate than clearly you should realize how wrong you are, goodbye and hope we never cross paths again
I am literally under the trans umbrella (agender). I understand how it feels to be pressed according to my gender Identify. I still want to be called she/her, or I don't really care. Because a label doesn't Suddenly mean I lose my gender. You don't understand how a fantasy world understand. In this world their called most likely mom because that is how the world is built. Their not discriminated by gender, rather by second gender. They give more of a fuck if your bitched than if you were female to male. I recommend you look at alot of other omega verse story. They often depict the difficulty omegas go through. They are no longer about gender ideology rather if you are an omega or not
that... still doesn't make someone transphobic or homophobic for thinking calling an omega "mom" is uncomfortable.
you're just headcanoning now and saying there are rules that have never been explicitly stated. there is no understanding how a fantasy world works - that's YOUR understanding until the author of this SPECIFIC series says it EXPLICITLY. "most likely" is your bias and your headcanon and what YOU want think makes sense.
also, if you READ omegaverse, there are actually a shit-ton of different perspectives and ideas on lmao. bro I've seen theories from male omegas being dead from child birthing 99% of the time to male omegas being 99% more likely to get pregnant.
there is no governing law saying secondary genders >>> primary genders, that's your headcanon that a lot of people share, but that doesn't make it canon because there is no canon, which must be amazing and probably impossible to get through your thick skull.
also tbh, if anything it's still primary gender >>> secondary gender, it's just in a niche case that is always the one shown that has this issue come up. honestly, i've personally read more shit on how female >>> male omegas than secondary gender >>> primary gender lmao.
you can't say "oh you don't know this universe"
did you make every omegaverse in existence? are you the founder of omegaverse inc? did you birth every omega in the world? are you a doctor in this universe? have you read every single omegaverse story there is in existence? on ao3? on wattpad? on mangago even? no? then you're just headcanoning based on what you see and assume and what you WANT to think because it applies to what YOU like.
and that's fine.
but telling someone else that they "don't understand" how a fantasy world that YOU DIDN'T CREATE works is just... ok ngl it's just stupid. like if someone said, "it's expirwmpcomc not expelliarmus" sure, point it out cause YOU HAVE SOURCE MATERIAL FROM THE OG CREATOR.
does omegaverse even HAVE a 100% all lore belongs to me source? ig star trek but even that's flimsy cause omegaverse has taken off hard.
honest to god, telling someone they don't know much about a trope that has like 1000 different interpretations and the only one right is your singular opinion is wild ngl.
lmao "I recommend you look at alot of other omega verse story", yes let's read the other 1000 different subtropes in omegaverse and say that a, b, c are all the same in it. yes only your opinion on this huge trope is right, we're all wrong and don't have eyes to read it lmao.
bro we were saying that it doesn't make someone homophobic for thinking calling a male omega 'mom' is weird, you're making this so fucking complicated for no reason by dragging every letter in the world into your argument to prove a point that is your personal headcanon...
thank you for either not reading this, or not understanding this.
(oml your response had me laughing bro, "In this world their called most likely mom because that is how the world is built" YEAH THAT'S HOW THE WORLD IS BUILT - Miken1097, OG author of ALL OMEGAVERSE TALES)
... Do you understand what you just said? I am telling you that from the creator perspective? It's the creators decision to call him mom or not? How is that wrong? You literally agreed that it's the creators personal preference to do whatever. The way the accuser said it was not an opinion rather bashing towards the creator. In the world byul, his son calls him that. No where did he get angry or anything? This is also not a headcannon. You can clearly read through the chapters. It's difficult in byuls universe for omegas to find jobs. "In this world" clearly means in this manga.
Tere mkc :)
Nobody reading all that sht. You fetisher btches always ruin our name in the fandom
Gnd maraa
Also skim through 20-30 when you arrive at the shopping for baby clothes you see that the lady asks if their a mom or dad. Then she refers to her own secondary gender. You can easily see that in this world the secondary gender dominates. All clothes are labeled omega, beta or alpha clothes.
nah sadly my english reading comprehension skills were too poor to understand that you meant this specific series after telling us to read more omegaverse stories. but ig your argument is that they're examples of what you said - though I'm pretty sure I also said that examples mean bullshit when I can find childexzhongli omegaverse au filled with egg birthing only to realize oh wait, in another omegaverse au childe gives actual live birth to a moving mini child childe.
you should search up the pregnant childe meme, it would tickle your need for preggo men ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I also didn't know 'a fantasy world' meant 'this fantasy world, but ig the inconsistencies in how you switched from 'this' to 'a' to telling us what to read is enough information to discern your sudden change in intent from omegaverse to this specific story. granted, I still think the two versus one means you meant all omegaverse like the true sb you are.
but ig that's fine cause you are our OG author of all omegaverse, we listen to you Miken1097, the truest omega tales leader.
also, tbh, given the fact I once called the author of BSD a person who knew more about how to spew shit about writing than to they knew how to write, I don't think 'bashing the creator' is really a point of contention... on a pirating manga site. lmao have you been here for 2 days? bro someone used to literally posts mommy dommy memes once every while.
and ngl you still haven't explained to me how someone saying that calling byul's sugar papa a 'mom' is bad is homophobic. you've just proven that... uh... they don't like the author lmao.
which tbh, is fair. they don't HAVE to like it lmao.
also tbh, even if it was in this world, someone can still have the opinion that the writing decision sucked. That... is why everyone should collectively agree Jinx is a shit manhwa.
It's just in this case those preferences aren't as widespread.
And boohoo someone bashed the author on MANGAGO. The way I see it, as long as you aren't doing it somewhere where the author is supposed to get feedback, say whatever the hell you want to say.
POTN IS SHIT AND THE WRITER LIKES SA
JINX IS SHIT AND THE WRITER LIKES SA
BSD HAS BAD WRITING AND THE WRITER IS A DUMBASS ASAGIRI YOU MAKE ME CRY
I THINK THE AUTHOR OF THAT ONE DORAEMON DOUJIN SHOULD GO STAY IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR HURTING MY EYES WITH THAT SHIT PILL HE SHOVED UP THAT DUDE'S ASS.
Wow, I just insulted a LOT of authors... ₍˄·༝·˄*₎◞
point being, it's not a crime worth whining about if someone boohoos your favourite mangaka. You could've bothered to make your own thread and talked about the social implications of byul calling whatshisface mommy or mom or sugar daddy or whatever. because if I was this obsessed with this series I would (honestly ngl, smh do you even like this series? no yapping? just that you're right? bro I made threads about why I'm starting to hate BSD that are longer than this smh bro not a true fan where's my OG omegaverse LEADER at?)
Nah, you make a bunch of half arguments trying to somehow link someone's understanding or misunderstanding and discomfort into this hypothetical world because... and I still can't believe this, you think that someone getting uncomfortable that Byul calls their sugar papa mom is homophobic.
please read that again and consider what in the world you are even arguing about... and how you are arguing for it...?
Ngl idgaf about the social implications of omegaverse, ao3 does those better than these manhwa honest to god (except that one omegaverse idk what it was called but it was not this one). I'm just upset you for some reason seem to agree throwing the word homophobic and transphobic around is okay whenever someone has a spat with your opinion, cause yes, until you give me a 1000 word long essay with quotes and examples on the social structure of omegaverse in this and why you're right, I'm going to call it your opinion.
it's not fun to be called homophobic to your face and the only reason people do it here to writers is cause the writers aren't going to see it tbh... and the fact the comment section was always for this kind of shit. if someone wrote shit to an author asking for feedback, I would say they were rude (still not homophobic...), but it's a ducking pirating website filled with guys sticking their long johns into each other's asses like it's friday funday. no one is shouting shit at the author's head while they are in the public washroom looking over reviews on mangago... no author does that. ok tbh I have read my ao3 comments in a public washroom - BUT THAT WAS ONCE.
And even then, tbh, as a writer... it's not that big of a deal either since people are bound to either like or dislike what you write. as a writer, you should be prepared for this level of archaic and elegant responses... from readers.
but what we're talking about here is someone saying someone else is homophobic for something that is neither homophobic or necessarily wrong ngl.
My dear Omega Leader-nim hyung san master bb, even if your excellent hypothesis about omegaverse in... uh I forgot ngl what story this is... Byul's Backroom Babyfest, yes, is correct, it's not really... that big of a deal that someone else thinks it's a shit idea lol.
I write Jingluo fanfiction, pretty sure dan heng/jingyuan mains (losers the lot of them smh you dragon tit fans yes ik you all lust over hypothetical and nonexistent dragon tits) hate me lmao.
luocha/welt mains too.
yeah, it's my headcanon, my isolated universe, everyone outside it hates it lololol.
but I'm not going to lie and say they are homophobic if they think my superior writing choices are wrong.
but that's why people were upset.
if it was valid criticism, and honestly, your uh very healthy obsession with preggo men universe ngl would count in this isolated case if you bothered to write it out coherently and stop saying everyone is a goddamn transphobe- but if it was valid criticism, no one is going to get mad except trolls. they can disagree, but they won't really be mad. nerd however the hell you want unless you are an sa or cp enjoyer (I'm sorry I can't accept that line)
people are mad here because it's NOT homophobic to dislike it. maybe you can argue they were rude, again pretty sure this website has way worse shit than that but whatever, and maybe you can argue the author's choices are the author's choices and YOU like them. but it doesn't make it valid criticism to say it's transphobic or homophobic just because they find that the historical implications of yaoi makes them uncomfortable when it comes to these things.
and that's why they're mad about this post.
honestly, pretty sure the entire transphobic thing can be ignored because that was just hitting the wrong point on why people were mad.
again, if you want write out your entire theory coherently in another post and talk about it with people, do it. idgaf about your taste in big tit daddy preggo men. but this wasn't about it and the fact that you keep on bringing up this goddamn opinion on why it's ok to call Byul's sugar papa a mom is annoying when it's not a matter of whether or not it's ok to say that, but whether or not it's ok to call someone else homophobic for disagreeing with that.
like honestly, you could've just written out your theory outside of this post and it would have been fine because everything you are writing is just a fan geeking out. But you decided to start shoving it where people who already disliked the concept were mad at being called homophobic. And then you called em transphobic. I don't know what you were expecting tbh... (⊙…⊙ ) bro make a new post and geek out there.
stop projecting the clear fetish is from you guys, thank god i'm not in your fuckass fandom anyways. God blessed me with actual good taste bitch.
i mute this and im still called transphobic for disliking a cis man being called mom lmao? crazy wild shit. no matter how you put it calling a cis man mom is fucking weird. and I will happily bash the fucking creator ANY DAY. they fetish rape, that's more than fucking enough to deserve bashing. i've bashed creators for less.
my bro, you are mistaking why people are upset.
it's not because of the author.
it's cause the dumb bitchass of a poster called people homophobic for disliking the fact Byul calls his sugar papa mom.
Do you really think the people who are pissed at Byul calling his sugar papa a mom care about chapters 20-30?
they are uncomfortable, it's not a crime.
literally just tell me, is it a crime to find a specific trope uncomfortable?
this the most stupidest argument ive seen... im a gay dude who wants to start a family with a guy in the future... i want my son/daughter to call both of us dads bec were both men. So this omega dude being called mom is weird?? even if by far in their world its normal but thats the author's choice. The author's choice to make this heteronormative. Like dang call bro dad cus hes a man who at some pointed wanted to thrust his dick in another omega
Yes you are able to hold this opinion, but in a way that is respectful not in a bashful Manner. The basher obviously didn't mean to state their opinion in a respectable way. The way people are trying to say that it's the authors choice and someone calling something mom isn't a crime. The basher responded more hateful rather than understanding
You can hate the creator for the rape and other stuff that are big issues but if you actually looked through 20-30 you'd see that you should have expected omegas being called mom. There are tons of chapters referring to it. It's a fantasy world with different labeling terms. If you want to express your opinion. Express it in a normal way. No in a bashful demeaning way. You are the same people who make people uncomfortable for stepping out of gender idealistic views
Well, good you have prefrences! Everyone can have them. You also live in the real world. In this omegaverse the world works differently. Mom isn't given to what your gender is. It's if you can give birth to something or not.
I really don't think heteronormativity exist in this world because it works on secondary gender only.
How can you bash the creator when one of your top liked books is about an alpha raping another alpha?
you should read it first if you want to understand.
idgaf, why should i accept it? and no i will express it how ever the fuck i want. i take great pleasure in bashing shitty authors. im not here to hold your sensitive hand to take in my comment gracefully. if you're butthurt that's your fucking business. go whing about it.
and i still criticized the authors for going on to more in the comment section. excuse me if i don't have enough word count to fit it into my list
We got homophobic btches commenting under YAOI webtoon