just gonna start with i agree with everythin you said but i kinda doubt that winter was a minor only because malnutrition can make people look younger they should. winter is just skin an bone and i guess forced to stay inside for the most part because of his father so yeah
while I agree with you, there's also the aspect that Raymon didn't care to confirm his age and was basically saying Winter could get out if he didn't want to do anything. He said he was just joking but he also said that after he noticed how dirty Winter was. Not to say that he did but I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been with minors with him speaking so flippantly about the virgins he's been with. But to the OP I don't think you have to defend either, someone can be abused and still be a piece of shit. That goes for both Winter and Raymon. There's levels to the piece of shittery someone can be, you may come out liking Winter and not Raymon at all or neither. Which I agree is majorly disappointing.
yeah i honestly wouldnt be surprised if raymon did sleep with minors but also not everyone who has went through abuse turns out like their abusers either and i know thats not what you meant. raymond is usin sex drugs and alcohol as a way to cope with his failed business and to pay off the people he owes debts to which is fucked up either way. on the other end winter doesnt know how to truly treat someone because he grew up watchin his mother get beat senseless and her tellin him that his father was doin it because he loves them but she only said that so winter didnt become sad because of it. and based on those facts people would most likely come out likin winter because he has shown that he doesnt really know that its not normal because of his childhood while so far raymon knows whats right and wrong but he chose those actions either way. i rambled sorry lol >.<
Oh great, the author is giving us this "they're both fucked up" backstory to try and make Raymon just as bad as Winter. And honestly... I don't know whether to defend Raymon or just say both Raymon and Winter are mentally ill pieces of shit that are just using each other as a coping mechanism. And the fact that Winter was a minor here... This is not giving Raymon a good look at all. I'm disappointed.