Can someone tell me if the seme is a green flag or a red flag?

Mi-chan December 28, 2024 12:58 am

Can someone tell me if the seme is a green flag or a red flag?

Responses
    Mih December 28, 2024 1:52 am

    Not the classic red flag, but he’s a piece of shit… although he does not mistreat the uke.
    I think from now on he will take better care of the uke… but I’m not totally sure.

    Mi-chan December 28, 2024 1:56 am
    Not the classic red flag, but he’s a piece of shit… although he does not mistreat the uke. I think from now on he will take better care of the uke… but I’m not totally sure. Mih

    Thanks! I am going to read this one.

    ayvan December 28, 2024 1:20 pm
    Not the classic red flag, but he’s a piece of shit… although he does not mistreat the uke. I think from now on he will take better care of the uke… but I’m not totally sure. Mih

    he didnt mistreat the uke? the guy showed up unannounced and fucked him in his drunk-induced sleep without consent how is that not mistreating

    Ispeaktomuch December 28, 2024 2:16 pm
    he didnt mistreat the uke? the guy showed up unannounced and fucked him in his drunk-induced sleep without consent how is that not mistreating ayvan

    While it’s borderline not okay him and the uke are in that kind of relationship and it’s by far one of the greenest things a seme has done in BL standards, when people ask for abuse they don’t mean “iffy consent” they mean actually genuine abuse where they beat the ukes, rape the ukes. Manipulate etc …this guys just a typical scummy guy that thinks with his D. He’s not really a bad person just…selfish and needing a wake up call.

    ayvan December 28, 2024 3:43 pm
    While it’s borderline not okay him and the uke are in that kind of relationship and it’s by far one of the greenest things a seme has done in BL standards, when people ask for abuse they don’t mean “iff... Ispeaktomuch

    yeah that "iffy consent" was rape.

    ayvan December 28, 2024 3:52 pm
    While it’s borderline not okay him and the uke are in that kind of relationship and it’s by far one of the greenest things a seme has done in BL standards, when people ask for abuse they don’t mean “iff... Ispeaktomuch

    one of the greenest thing a seme cam do in BL standarda is not try to fuck someobe while theyre drunk AND asleep. dont deduce ts to that low of a bar

    Jingle Bells December 28, 2024 4:33 pm
    one of the greenest thing a seme cam do in BL standarda is not try to fuck someobe while theyre drunk AND asleep. dont deduce ts to that low of a bar ayvan

    For real people need standard. I really thought he'd be a green flag at first but I guess that authors can't get enough of using rape when they don't know what to add. The rape literally add nothing, the uke act like he forgot and he forgave too quickly. And I'm also annoyed that people don't realize that "iffy consent" – as you call it, even if he can't consent when he's asleep - is still rape.

    ayvan December 28, 2024 5:38 pm
    For real people need standard. I really thought he'd be a green flag at first but I guess that authors can't get enough of using rape when they don't know what to add. The rape literally add nothing, the uke ac... Jingle Bells

    right and he was drunk the entire time. when he woke up he was asking the dude to stop too. They go through hoops to defend anything , wtf is "iffy" consent. it's either a yes or none at all

    Ispeaktomuch December 29, 2024 2:42 am
    For real people need standard. I really thought he'd be a green flag at first but I guess that authors can't get enough of using rape when they don't know what to add. The rape literally add nothing, the uke ac... Jingle Bells

    Be annoyed all you want it’s a fantasy manga and authors love to add “iffy consent”. Yes it’s wrong but in irl there’s couples that are into that. Heck there’s a whole kink around it, my best friend who’s gay has this very kink. The author doesn’t really have time to go into all of this and honestly I don’t want to either but to say he’s a rapist isn’t a big reach but it doesn’t quite fit here. The uke didn’t freak out, didn’t thrash and tell him “no I don’t want this”. He was confused but ultimately went along with it. If in the future the author shows the mc looking back on it and deciding “hey that wasn’t okay” then okay. Yes the seme is a rapist but until the author shows the uke in that way then you cannot go around saying he’s a rapist. Some authors like to show us the characters rejecting these things and that’s good, it shows the readers that how they intended it to be seen and clearly this author wanted to cater to a certain audience. I personally wouldn’t be okay with it but that’s me and if this was my story it would be rape. But it’s not, so to the originally poster. Well the seme isn’t the best man out there and is indeed pretty scummy he isn’t by BL standards a red flag. He’s pretty pale yellow.

    Ispeaktomuch December 29, 2024 2:51 am
    right and he was drunk the entire time. when he woke up he was asking the dude to stop too. They go through hoops to defend anything , wtf is "iffy" consent. it's either a yes or none at all ayvan

    I don’t really need to entertain yall but I’ll say this to you and it’s gonna blow you mind away, when people say no during sex….they don’t always mean it. Should the seme have slowed down and asked consent. Yes he should have tbh but people say no during sex so much there’s a whole thing now called a safe word. Does this mean that if this was a friend irl that came to me and said this was done to them I’d tell them it’s not rape? No I wouldn’t, I’d say it’s rape because the person came to me not okay with it. Until the author shows the uke having those reflections I want y’all to put your pitch forks away. Me understanding how an author intended the story to be written doesn’t make me an enabler. I read Fictional work with an open mind and I read it as the author intends it to be read. Here it’s “iffy” not because I don’t agree it’s not rape but because the author doesn’t intend for it to be that. If you’re someone who’s okay with that then it caters to your kink which I’m sorry to say is what most of these stories are about? If you want a nice wholesome romance BL is not the genre for you it’s honestly THAT simple.

    ayvan December 29, 2024 4:30 am
    Be annoyed all you want it’s a fantasy manga and authors love to add “iffy consent”. Yes it’s wrong but in irl there’s couples that are into that. Heck there’s a whole kink around it, my best friend... Ispeaktomuch

    yeah bro take your racist apologist story and pack it up. that second sentence told me all i needed to know about you.
    "my best friend who’s gay has this very kink"? well guess what im gay fucktard and that chapter wasnt centered around any of them having that kink. he was drunk and taken advantage of in his sleep, that's rape, end of story.

    ayvan December 29, 2024 4:31 am
    I don’t really need to entertain yall but I’ll say this to you and it’s gonna blow you mind away, when people say no during sex….they don’t always mean it. Should the seme have slowed down and asked c... Ispeaktomuch

    he and the uke didnt have a "safeword" the uke said no, stop. so he should've stopped. anything further after those words being uttered is nonconsensual, whether or not the victim gives into the pleasure. move along

    ayvan December 29, 2024 4:42 am
    I don’t really need to entertain yall but I’ll say this to you and it’s gonna blow you mind away, when people say no during sex….they don’t always mean it. Should the seme have slowed down and asked c... Ispeaktomuch

    "Here it’s “iffy” not because I don’t agree it’s not rape but because the author doesn’t intend for it to be that." that doesn't negate anything broski. It isn't no "iffy" consent. It's still none at all. So rape.

    Ispeaktomuch December 29, 2024 8:38 am
    yeah bro take your racist apologist story and pack it up. that second sentence told me all i needed to know about you."my best friend who’s gay has this very kink"? well guess what im gay fucktard and that ch... ayvan

    Do you have that kink? And racist? You saying racist is all I needed to know about you lmao. If you’re not intelligent enough to understand a word don’t use it. I won’t respond after this because clearly you don’t understand things and it’s my bad I should have realised that before the “racist “ comment ahaha.

    Ispeaktomuch December 29, 2024 8:39 am
    "Here it’s “iffy” not because I don’t agree it’s not rape but because the author doesn’t intend for it to be that." that doesn't negate anything broski. It isn't no "iffy" consent. It's still none a... ayvan

    Also dude from looking at your profile you have some nerve getting mad about this. “Omega slave?” Really? You’re not one to care about consent in your stories so why start now.

    Mih December 29, 2024 11:28 am
    he didnt mistreat the uke? the guy showed up unannounced and fucked him in his drunk-induced sleep without consent how is that not mistreating ayvan

    I meant like in that manhwa that I forgot the name that the guy is a boxer kinda of mistreat, but yeah he’s a piece of shit like I said and that non consensual sex rape thing was really annoying and shitty… but the uke here is so adorable maybe I didn’t want the person asking to not try the reading, because the art is great and uke is so sweet

    Mi-chan December 29, 2024 5:43 pm
    I meant like in that manhwa that I forgot the name that the guy is a boxer kinda of mistreat, but yeah he’s a piece of shit like I said and that non consensual sex rape thing was really annoying and shitty…... Mih

    Oh God, I never imagined that I would get so many answers to my question. Well, Mih, I started reading and when I read Jinx (the story of the boxer and such), I thought the seme was a yellow flag. I asked because I read "No Love Zone" and I liked the art and I thought the story was good, disregarding rapes and other things. I wanted to know if the seme was a red flag because of the countless yaois in which the seme pretends to be a good guy and such, deceives the innocent uke and then regrets it and tries to get back together. That's why I asked.

    ayvan December 29, 2024 6:09 pm

    cant answer cuz im blocked but me make a few points. 1. "racist" and "rapist" are similar words. i misspelled it. to make your entire comment about that while missing my other points shows how illiterate you are.
    2. the stories i read have nothing to do with this. i didnt say they aren't rape. i answered somebody's question regarding that topic. the fact that you resorted to ad hominem and tu quoque because you can't defend that you're a rape denier is hilarious

    Jingle Bells December 30, 2024 1:36 am
    Oh God, I never imagined that I would get so many answers to my question. Well, Mih, I started reading and when I read Jinx (the story of the boxer and such), I thought the seme was a yellow flag. I asked becau... Mi-chan

    Well, that's kinda what's gonna happen in this bl lol. The seme isn't pretending to be nice but he knows uke loves him so he isn't quite showing his true self yet (at least I think) he already abused our innocent uke (even if some don't want to realize it) and will probably do it in the future given how the story's unfolding

    Jingle Bells December 30, 2024 1:41 am
    Be annoyed all you want it’s a fantasy manga and authors love to add “iffy consent”. Yes it’s wrong but in irl there’s couples that are into that. Heck there’s a whole kink around it, my best friend... Ispeaktomuch

    It's kinda funny that you mentioned your BFF. I could do it too. My best friend is gay and he loves feet, does that mean every gay loves feet? I really don't understand why you had to include him/her here but okay ig. BTW, people can be raped but not realize it (because of past abuse and tendencies of minimalizing) making your whole statement about "if he gets scared afterwards it's rape but if he doesn't it's not" invalid. Do you have something else to say now that I've proven that your two main and only - if I remember well - arguments aren't valid?