On the whole waiting a few days to show respect for authors
If anything, one thing I have learned for being on this site for (sadly) over a decade. Waiting a few days is once again a respect thing. Those who will pay to read officials and help the author will and those who won't ( which is why people are here on an illegal site) won't regardless of when it's posted. But I have read of many authors who will see the logistics of readers stats on release day only to see illegal sites have a higher reader rate then their paid official versions will ever have. I have read of authors quite writing cause these stats make them think what's the point. This is why many started to wait days to post. Reading on release day is a perk to paid readers, those who want to read for free, we can and should wait a few days.
Once again people who will pay and show support to authors will regardless and many here are here to read for free and do not care. But lets be respectful to the author next time.
Exactly! The call out post felt like such a tantrum and dragging everyone into it by doing it through upload. This could so easily be dealt with privately and give it a few days; who wants to get uploaded drama during holiday （￣へ￣）
Then why not contact each other first before uploading? I think that's is the correct ways to avoid fighting each other. Since we can dm each other in the mangago. Im thankful for the upload actually but everytime there is drama in in uploader side im afraid both of you getting hate so much due to unnecessary misunderstanding
Not trying to come off rude but everyone is clearly missing the main point which I'm trying and have been trying to say.
"why not contact each other first"
The other party Never contacted about their upload, even when I contacted him/her, there's was no reply which led me to upload a NOTICE on being uploaded over.
1.He she claimed that, "he she had no ill intentions on uploading" but he she clearly uploaded over without any prior notice and that's not a good thing as being an uploader itself.
2.I didn't claim my right as the owner of this manga, I only claim it as an uploader who had already given out a notice on being the "present uploader" (I have already asked permission from the previous OFFICIAL uploader 'Akumakira')
3.The uploader who uploaded over me also stated in his comments: "if somone else uploaded before me, I would not have interfered". BUT HE CLEARLY DID INTERFERED IN MY UPLOADS.
4. HE/SHE said they were doing a favor in uploading the OFFICIALS. BUT, after their OFFICIAL CHAPTERS, what's the point of me now to upload my translation then? When everyone wuld prefer reading the official ONE instead of a fan translation.?(This is the whole point)
Normally fan translation are first then later Officials are put to replace them. So why officials first then fan translation?? What is this logic?
This was my whole point in writing a NOTICE which many TOOK it in the wrong way and led to a more misunderstanding which I myself I don't get what they're trying to say when I stated everything even their questions in the NOTICE
Considering you read the uploader comment; whatever you AND your team bombarded them with in dm clearly they found aggressive. If you real some of the other comments people have stated they are completely fine and like having two translation as officials and uploaders sometime interpreted things differently. No one owns uploading rights that is not a thing. You sounds very entitled and I don’t know if that’s your intention but it comes off as such. If this is how you reply in the comments I cannot imagine how you replied in their DMs
So is me asking the uploader
Hii ....
I just wanted to ask you...
Did you not read the notice I gave......blah blah blah.
I wasted my days and hour on working on this translation only to be uploaded over...blah blah a blah.....
Bro please give me your reason for uploading over me......
(So the word "please" also sound rude now??
Is this rude?
You consider this rude? Wahhhhh
If I were to use slang words like,
hey why are uploading over me? Don't be like a fker trying to dig your nose in others upload and remove your uploads now.
If this was how I said it, ofc it's not right!....
You hav the right to tell me it's rude. But where was the rudeness?
No one would come off in others dm if they're trying to be rude and say Please. And ask for their reason.
You really want an answer from your snippet ?
“did you not read the notice I gave” sounds like you’re mocking. You don’t need to speak in slang or whatever your point is but a simple “hi, I don’t know if you saw the notice I gave or not” would of been a lot more kind they “did you not read the notice I gave” you sound entitled like that. If you read their message they also literally said they did not see.
“I wasted days hours bla bla bla” that sounds aggressive again you’re putting this on them over a simple miscommunication
“Bro please give me your reason” your please does not make it any nicer with all your other shit it just sounds passive aggressive
I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make with the whole slang argument. I’m not arguing with you further; that’s all I’m saying from an outside perspective your action (the call out notice) and this dm snippet, yes, you were being rude.
So you also agree with
"They did not see the notice"
So how comes he did not see the notice when he was uploading the chapters???
Okay he saw the Notice but couldn't load the page, then he went to the comment section and saw Translation being on process.
Then why did he she not ask or dm me??
Why am I the one personally messaging him when he was the one planning on uploading over without giving any prior notice?
Isn't he the one being rude here by ignoring the NOTICE note and the chapter name as NOTICE
HE CHOSE TO IGNORE contacting me for an upload.
Now whose the actual rude one here?
Me asking him his reason for his uploads witout any advance notice.
Or he who just CHOSE to IGNORE me and my notice and then say "he had no ill intentions".
And one more thing I dm him just a mins or hrs the moment he uploaded chapter 26 and my other team dm him on the day he uploaded chapter 25......
So who ignored who first now? He had seen the dm when he was uploading chapter 26 but he CHOSE to ignore it.
After this message I am going to mute this convo cause you sound entirely immature and rude. You have handled this situation extremely poorly and yes your DM as you phrased it was worded extremely rude. You could have been nicer and said " hey such and such, I posted a notice yesterday stating i would upload chapters. As you have uploaded can i request you delete them?" Everything you stated is condescending.
This whole translation/ upload war should have been private. You messaging and spamming every comment of everyone who disagrees is not helping anyone like you or take your side of this war. If anything I would prefer if another uploader takes over instead. While the other uploader was not respectful for uploading over you, two wrongs don't make you right. You should/ could have been the better person but no you seem to be attacking others at this point. Plenty of people have given their opinion stating to just upload your version and upload the official form now on. Stop acting immature of wah wah wah I waisted my time and now I can't post it. Cause yes you can and many of us have commented asking that you do cause we tend to like fan translations over officials.
ALSO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP SPAMMING MY COMMENT SAME THE SAME CHILDISH DRIBBLE jasper.
On the whole translation thing.... I have always found it distasteful when an uploader "claims dibs" in uploading. Like in some cases the fan translation is still uploading when someone swoops in and claims they will upload the official if it ever gets released....
In this case a notice was posted but I think it helps solidify your "claim" when you upload the chapter too. No claims... Just action. I am thankful to who can translate and post cause let's be honest this is an illegal site so let's not act as if we are some how being " civilized". I pay to read some different manga and manhua on different platforms. Other than I can't at the time, I read for free until I can. But posting here wether the day of, day later, or year later is still illegal. We are here to read the story illegally or be able to comment. When the official are posted honestly I don't think it effects the authors revenue cause those who will pay to read will regardless to support the authors and many of us here are here to read for free.
Let's not claim someone is being uncivilized cause they jumped the g*n. And the notices was sooo much of a tantrum to me. I get you made a "claim" or called "dibs". Send a nice DM to the person who posted, say you called dibs, ask the poster to please delete and move on. If they don't delete try to post again next time. I have noticed the g*n jumpers tend to stop after time. But lets be honest you and me are not any better than the person who posted the chapter early. Yes they should wait for respect to the authors but let's not pretend you being helping the author get paid. This an illegal site were many are here only to read for free.
Just my little rant. The whole thing seemed way too immature to me. Especially with the second notice. Sooo many manga here have multiple translation teams and even the official, as a reader I pick the one that I like the most. Let's get past this and move on, post your translation for chapter 25 and ignore the other person. Once again none of us, you or me included are any better than the person who uploaded instead of jasper.
I am thankful all uploaders though.