Myeah

Bdsm pretending to be abuse. It's just that in reality you want consent and safe words. But this is fiction so you can get rid of those.

Even in fiction those exist. If the writer doesn't add a safe word or makes it consensual then it's just straight up a story about /SA, where one of the characters ends up getting their brain washed and develops Stockholm syndrome.

Yeah and ? Some people like to fantasize about bdsm, some people like to fantasize about grape/abuse and some people like to fantasize about both. Point being anything goes in fiction.

I am not saying that people are not allowed to like certain things. I have my own personal share of red flags that I like in BL fiction. But this story is shit so far, from my perspective, and we are also bringing in BDSM AND abuse ? It feels more like the author wanted to abuse their character for 7 chapters straight.

I had the same opinion about Dark Fall. At some point there is too much smut, abuse and BDSM that those people who came for the story in the beginning lose interest. Later on Dark Fall focused more on the story, but at that point my interest has gone.

I bot chapters for Dark Fall n regretted it. Dropped it. Then checked on mgg no progress never went back

And? You do know it’s not normal to fantasize about that sort of thing right?.. if someone does fantasize about /SA they should sick help. Clearly something must have happened to them for them to fantasize about anything like that, so I’m hoping that people who fantasize about it get better and realize it’s not ok. Also stop using fiction as an excuse for shit stories. You do realize many readers start believing this kind of thing is ok, right? While I don’t care whether your brain has been damaged by this kind of content or not, I worry about young readers who think this kind of things are ok and that’s the norm. Fiction can have a lot of impact on people, so even in fiction people should be aware of morals and what’s right and what’s wrong.

*Seek help, if you're going to patronize people at least do it with the right words.
What bother me about people like you is the fact that you're saying you only fantasize about things you want to happen in real life or wish would be done to you. Like do you never imagine stories that aren't wishes ?
Like you never imagined something like being a spaceship pilot despite knowing you'd hate it in reality because you don't like driving to begin with in reality ? Or a tragic stories where your friends and family die because whatever event just to make it sad despite loving them so much you'd do anything for them in reality ?

Dreaming about grape and SA is the same, you fantasize about it despite not wanting it to happen to anyone ever in reality. It's just the pleasure of sadism and power play without the downsize of reality like someone actually getting hurt. In reality you only roleplay about this kind of things and sets safe words because you don't actually want someone real getting hurt. In fiction it doesn't matter because it's not real and no one actually got abused.
If you have trouble understanding that it means you have trouble discerning fiction from reality in which case you just need to learn that most people don't work like you do.

I'm not using fiction as an excuse for bad stories, I'll be the first one to complain about a badly written story or unnecessary grape/SA in stories that didn't need it (like in Gig of the Day, the fxck was that ?!) but just saying it's bad and people that like it are sick because you don't like the abuse type story ? That's like an aro-ace saying anyone that read romance is sick and anything with romance is trash because they don't understand it. Go join your boomer friends at their prejudice table and leave us alone.

"You do realize many readers start believing this kind of thing is ok, right?" If anyone believe this is okay in real life they had problem to begin with, it's not the 90' anymore I thought we moved on from "[insert any kind of entertainment that isn't mainstream] turn our kids violent" you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Go back to your museum with your fake concern about imaginary kids you never spoke to.
If you were really concerned you'd make sure to educate people about the difference between fiction and reality, you'd tell people not to be ashamed of their taste in fiction as long as they don't wish for it in reality instead of demonizing and shaming thoughts and personal tastes that don't have any Impact on anyone. You're the kind of person that create environments that allows sickos to thrive because you don't actually understand how humans work.

Sorry, forgot to double check my reply and if my keyboard autocorrected anything. Also why are you assuming things about me? I’m fully aware fantasizing is not just related to things you want to happen in real life. It could be anything, no matter how stupid it is. But that? No normal person would fantasize about it.

Do you know what fantasizing is? It’s literally thinking about your wishes. What you want. So no person would just go an fantasize about that. And in fiction it does matter because fiction has a huge impact on how some people might behave or think, you might not agree, but as someone who has had too many interactions with all kinds of readers, it happens more than you think. Each day literal minors and adults wish for toxic relationships, no matter how messed up it is. Because they think that’s normal, “it means you have trouble discerning fiction from reality”, I can separate fiction from reality, but it still doesn’t mean it’s correct. People like you often assume everything that happens in fiction is alright because it isn’t real, when it isn’t, if you have trouble realizing it’s wrong then just say so, no need to make yourself look like a fool.

When did I say people are sick for liking those kind of stories? I said people who fantasize about /SA should seek help. Which is true. Just because I’m saying someone should seek help it doesn’t mean I’m calling them sick. I’m simply saying something must have triggered them to think the way they do, and no good thing would have triggered that. Is it rude to care about other’s mental health now?

And what’s up with that awful comparison? You do know there’s an awful amount of aroaces who enjoy romance right? And that there’s people who aren’t aroace who despise romance, right? “Go join your boomer friends at their prejudice table” I consider myself an open minded person thank you very much, you should stop with those fake assumptions of yours since it’s clear you do not know me. Just because my brain isn’t as damaged as yours it doesn’t mean I have prejudice against toxic stories. If you had bothered to at least check the kind of comics I read you’d be able to find out that I’ve read an awful amount of toxic comics. It was out of curiosity, but it still doesn’t change the fact I read those (although, there are some toxic ones that I read out of interest and not curiosity, I enjoy toxic stories if both parties are toxic, and I have no shame in admitting it.) Thus, if I really was calling people who have read stories with /SA sick I would also be calling myself that.

“they had a problem to begin with”, not really. There’s many naïve people in the world. And I don’t know if you tend to interact with people in this site a lot or not but there’s an awful amount of minors who just happened to start reading comics and came across badly written stories because it’s literally all this site displays on the homepage, sure perhaps some fluff comics in here and there, but most of them are shit comics, so why yes I do believe readers who never had problems in their life started to think like that (before you jump to conclusions, I am not saying all of them are like that, I do believe some might think like that due to problems they must have faced, but it still doesn’t change the fact there’s others who are just how I described them.) You sound like you’re trying to project yourself onto everyone. I’m sorry but really? It has been literally proven that the kind of media people consume affects their brains and the way they think. I don’t know what I’m talking about? It sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re saying since most of your reply is you trying to insult me with silly comments. “about imaginary kids” UNFORTUNATELY for you, I have come across minors like that, so hate to break it to you but my concern is real. Once again, I’m not making fun or shaming anybodies interests, I’ve stated I, myself, read those kind of things. I was just saying that despite being fiction it can still have an impact on people’s minds, WHICH is true. You might think otherwise but that’s up to you.

I don’t understand how humans work? Hate to break it to you, but between me and you, I believe I know more about how people function than you do. Just because you have an opinion about a certain topic it doesn’t make you the one who has more knowledge about it, for starters I wouldn’t even have replied to you if I didn’t have knowledge about this topic.

PS: Please stop with your silly assumptions next time if you try to reply to my comment because I believe it would make your replies shorter and less time consuming. While I am having fun discussing this topic with you I still don’t think any of us would enjoy spending time adding pointless comments that aren’t relevant to the topic. I look forward to your reply.
And if you understand the contents in my comment, don’t bother correcting me for any misspelled words because it would take you even more time as I tend to misspell things a lot, and with this autocorrect, it happens even more. I’ll make sure to I have it turned off next time.