Is torture porn the new trend in yaoi genre?

MangaSanctuary December 21, 2024 10:17 pm

Just clicked because it's featured on the board page, without expecting much considering the cover.
Despite the brutal entry, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of art and the dynamic action scene: this looks like it has great potential. But then (of course) we get the usual SA and in this one, all the torturous devices that promise the readers they'll see pain and blood, tears. But like this wasn't enough they need to add a ridiculous size difference and a horse dick to ml.
I don't know what's bothering me the most: all the useless devices or the gigantic dick?
That's not sexy, not arousing even as porn material and despite the hot character designing. My stomach hurts just by looking at the dry S scene - horrific. When will Korean authors put a stop to these surealistic surdimensionnés penises? At some points that's not sexy anymore and looks painful.
And let's not forget the premise of that paper thin plot: HUMBLING a fierce agent by treating him, brutalizing and soiling him like he's less than a dog. To top this all they'll make him fall in love with his rapist (Stockholm Syndrom). So predictable. Do people really need such porn material to feel horny?

When will we get good art coupled with interesting plot and exciting smut in bl, or is it too much to ask?

Responses
    manga puppy December 22, 2024 3:38 am

    There are plenty of manga/manhua/manhwa with good art and interesting plot. You’re just not searching the right places. You keep clicking the one with obvious, glaring red flag covers.

    Chiaki December 22, 2024 5:10 am

    Honestly I absolutely agree with the horsedicks being a major turn off.
    An average sized dick is so much hotter! I like a tall Top but his dick shouldn't look ridiculous on him.
    Also I kinda enjoy when the bottom has a bigger one as well, makes it kinda unexpected and fun.

    Alright that's enough "dick" in one comment.

    MangaSanctuary December 22, 2024 5:50 am
    There are plenty of manga/manhua/manhwa with good art and interesting plot. You’re just not searching the right places. You keep clicking the one with obvious, glaring red flag covers. manga puppy

    Not all, just this one and Reverse Thinking and mainly because of the art.
    It's clear these are ref flag covers with red flag content, but this degrading...?

    Actually, there's not so much art styles that are great ; most always contain some issues (anatomy or something else). As a bl reader I can assure you that finding a bl/yaoi with the equation nice art, nice story, nice smut, is like finding a rare gem. When the plot is good, that's the art that's bof. When both are good, you don't get the smut. It depends on your standards also, but I can't' even name 10 bl with the golden equation.
    This art style here is amazing (gorgeous faces, proportionate anatomies...), dynamic drawing with a mix of eastern and western influence... though it's wasted on such vapid content.
    After No Reason, Reverse Thinking and this one for the latest... There's a tendency that makes us think artists with great art tend to chose the trashiest 'plots' to display their talent

    MangaSanctuary December 22, 2024 6:17 am
    Honestly I absolutely agree with the horsedicks being a major turn off. An average sized dick is so much hotter! I like a tall Top but his dick shouldn't look ridiculous on him. Also I kinda enjoy when the bott... Chiaki

    IKR? Lol. I'm partisan of the saying "it's not the size that counts, but the way you do it".
    Girl readers generally like smut scenes with lots of kisses, embrace, stimulus etc, good atmosphere, to enjoy our lemons. But I guess this one target another public.
    The dick can be normal or massive but if it feels dry and the act rushed (like here), it's not good smut.
    These third legs look like they could unalive the bottom, who's much smaller btw, which is a real turn of to me.
    An Uke can be bigger if the smaller Seme is more assertive, of course :))

    megumi December 22, 2024 7:41 am

    i’m with manga puppy on this one. i agree with you about the plot being trash & the smut not being exciting, but to read the extremely explicit material & then complain about it is getting exhausting at this point. i’d be more understanding if you weren’t being warned, but there’s obvious trigger warnings telling you there’s cruelty & violence involved. personally, when i don’t like something, i avoid it at all costs.

    AWinterWonderLand December 22, 2024 10:26 am
    i’m with manga puppy on this one. i agree with you about the plot being trash & the smut not being exciting, but to read the extremely explicit material & then complain about it is getting exhausting ... megumi

    MangaSanctuary December 22, 2024 10:50 am
    i’m with manga puppy on this one. i agree with you about the plot being trash & the smut not being exciting, but to read the extremely explicit material & then complain about it is getting exhausting ... megumi

    I get what you mean, however people still have the right to express their opinions or dislikes. The comment section is made for that purpose. I could also ask you to not bother to reply to my comment since you clearly can tell it's about negative avis.

    Btw, wasting such art on a trashy plot deserves for this work to be roasted, anyway.

    manga puppy December 22, 2024 1:25 pm
    Not all, just this one and Reverse Thinking and mainly because of the art.It's clear these are ref flag covers with red flag content, but this degrading...?Actually, there's not so much art styles that are grea... MangaSanctuary

    Nah, obviously I’m not going to tell you what you’ve read and what you haven’t. Like you said, everyone has different standards, and in my opinion the art style of this manhua is actually not good, the proportions are also not accurate. Like when the top had his hand on the agent’s back, his palm literally covered the entire back (from what was drawn earlier, we can tell the agent isn’t small, neither is he a twink) and then the top’s palm can cover the agent’s entire dick.

    So nah I’ve seen way better art than this, great proportions, good smut. You just have to avoid mainstream ones and search beyond ones that appears on mangago, and also (i don’t know you at all so im not going to assume, but) don’t only stick to webtoons and manhuas because they are colored and avoid mangas because they aren’t. A lot of gems are in mangas and this is why people don’t find it.

    But let me drop my number one recommendation for you that is underrated for whatever reason. It’s called “Game therapy”

    MangaSanctuary December 22, 2024 1:46 pm
    Nah, obviously I’m not going to tell you what you’ve read and what you haven’t. Like you said, everyone has different standards, and in my opinion the art style of this manhua is actually not good, the pr... manga puppy

    Agree on the proportions on this one, I complained about the size difference in my thread. They are messed up but only when you have the top standing beside the bottom. But separately, they're fine. I don't see the need to put such great difference in their size because its gets ridiculous. The art in itsef is beautiful though, I stand by that, and it's the only good point to me about that work.

    I mostly have read mangas, bl mangas, though like everyone I tend to read more K manhwas lately because they've overtoken these sites :/
    I'll take a look a your rec, thanks

    manga puppy December 22, 2024 1:52 pm
    Agree on the proportions on this one, I complained about the size difference in my thread. They are messed up but only when you have the top standing beside the bottom. But separately, they're fine. I don't see... MangaSanctuary

    Correction, the name of my recommendation is “Therapy game” not game therapy lol

    MangaSanctuary December 22, 2024 2:01 pm
    Correction, the name of my recommendation is “Therapy game” not game therapy lol manga puppy

    Np and thanks