professor > ml

No, but people need to stop acting like both of them (prof and ML) are good. Professor knew what he was doing, and ML as well.

I guess to better phrase it, people need to stop thinking they have to side with someone. How about no team until idk, the story progresses maybe? Or just team Wooju.

And I agree so much with the childish part of ML. He’s pretty but that’s it, his personality and his behavior is extremely immature and he’s a rapist so that’s enough to tell you.

And who’s your username referencing? Love it.

And I almost missed the part where you said Wooju is dense as fuck. You speak truth.

I’ve mentioned this as well in my post, he’s dense as hell and can be guillable—which is why prof can easily get away with his tactic as well as ML with his rapist behavior.

neither of them are. but professor didn’t actually do something on the same level as ml. although the professors intentions are predatory, it’s not on the same level to me as ml constantly manipulating and sexually harassing wooju imo

the intentions are there, but the actions haven’t been equal as ml has been FAR worse. messing with wooju’s feelings about the cousin, pretending to be hurt whenever he needs to apologize, and basically always getting his way just by taking advantage of mc UGH!

also, no people can pick sides… that’s the fun in reading a ship with two love interests. wanting wooju by himself IS a side

Well MC is gonna end up with Blondie no matter what, so fucked either ways. This type of shit is so normalized in BL, I’m not surprised.

Same level or not, I’d rather not choose who when you can just…not choose at all considering both are manipulative in a way. I don’t want Wooju by himself, but I definitely more so don’t want him with the two hot trashes.

You mean no people can’t pick sides? I do agree somewhat. I just think Professor is shady as hell, but I also agree with you that he’s not on the same level of fuckery that ML has going on.

well, yes! it’s why i keep criticizing ml because he’s so boring and childish, to the point where the second ml who’s not even “good” seems remotely better. and yep u don’t have to choose… but other people including me like too and it’s not a big deal tbh. this isn’t a story that uses rational thought or good relationship building, but shipping culture exists regardless of how trash the love interests are. just because you don’t want to ship him with anyone, it doesn’t mean other people have to ??

what i mean is literal. there is “no picking sides”. wanting wooju to not be with either of them is choosing a side. your original statement was contradictory and it was pointing that out. the three main endings in a love triangle are first ml, second ml, or mc ends up alone

Not wanting Wooju to be with either is different from being on SIDES of either of the two MLs as if we have to choose them is what I meant.

I get what you’re trying to point out though and I understand now that you clarified, it’s still choosing a side. Not to be a moral police either. Shipping culture exists, I’m aware. I just think it’s strange that we have to root for one of the MLs or being on a team right now.

I know blondie is going to be endgame either ways so yeah, but I can only root for him once his character develops. Sure he’s trash, but I’m not gonna be stuck on it for long.

I’m not telling you to stop shopping whoever you want to ship, but I’m just saying. You can ship whoever. Freely.

Also what do you mean by “nothing to back him up” when you said Ml isn’t even the yummy type of toxic?

Like ML has no reason to be behaving this way?

im still confused on this Σ( ￣□￣||). wanting wooju alone is not different from picking a side. that’s always been an option in love triangles, i don’t get why we keep going back and forth on the semantics

no one said you have to root for either interests, but it’s not strange if someone does it? you are aware of shipping culture, yet how is it strange that it exists in this webtoon when there’s enough content between both mls for people to create an idea of their dynamics. you said “ship whoever you want freely”, but then you keep also adding that we shouldn’t want him with either mls + also saying we should wait until the story progresses until any shupping… this quite literally means you’re not letting ppl ship freely . our opinions exist outside of each other, me shipping doesn’t force you to want wooju with anyone :)

that’s right!! imo ml has no reason to behave this way. with ml, his toxic behavior (manipulation, conniving schemes) don’t make sense to me because wooju is not a hard person to please. even though we haven’t gotten their full backstory we can already see that ml always gets his way because of wooju’s infinite soft spot for him and his overall dense-ness LMAO. if he wants to take advantage of woojus kindness, it’d be more productive for ml to use it towards creating a fake relationship instead of a fwb situation and constantly reassuring wooju’s romantic feelings for mls cousin. he’s basically shooting himself in the foot and not actually making moves for mc to see him as a romantic partner

this is just personal preference but i like fictional relationship toxicity when there’s a basis for why a character is behaving that way

No no I meant like picking sides of the toxic people is completely different from wanting someone to stay away from them. Picking sides as in condoning their actions and ignoring what they’ve done.

I didn’t say you or others HAVE TO think my way, but I was simply expressing that I don’t get why some people want me to be team this ML or that ML, as if we have to choose is my point.

Sorry for any misunderstandings .

Lmao this reminds me of one story where the ML raped his father (not biological) who had kidnapped ML as a kid. People thought the MC had a reason to take ML in, but no he just did it for no good reason.

As for ML, he raped for a reason…what do you think?

Wooju is a dumb ass sorry. I can’t stand how naive and dense he can be. Hopefully he stands up for himself more, but that’s just his character and can’t expect much change.

I agree so much with this: “he’s basically shooting himself in the foot and not actually making moves for mc to see him as a romantic partner.”

This is what I mean when I say ML is immature and childish/inexperienced, or just not idk appealing with his tactics. Whereas Prof is more slick with it, doesn’t having outbursts, shows himself as a good person so far, etc.

wait so is the non-bio father (who kidnapped ml) is the mc? from the small details it sounds crazy already, the core of their actions didn’t match why either of them did what they did. but did you like the story?

and i agree, he’s written so weirdly stupid for no reason. they wrote him in the most flat, one dimensional way that i genuinely feel bad for him . it’s one thing to be naive, but another to make him oblivious to the most easy-to-read situations that always risk his safety. if im being real, this author sucks at creating dynamic characters or a flowing plot

it’s so unfortunate he acts that way… i find it much more interesting to have someone be smart and calculating (professor) not stupid and calculating (ml). at least make them all have tact, if not they come off annoying or frustrating when they’re supposed to be grown adults

I believe he is the MC, yes. The anatomy is…eh, and the sex scenes are horrible haha. Don’t remember the title but the father did kidnap ML and raised him as a child, ML found out and raped him (I think there was another reason but forgot).

I agree that the author can’t write dynamic characters. It’s pretty obvious based on some of her works I’ve read. Not sure if you’ve read K’s secret, but this one is probably worse but that story is also lacking in some aspects.

I’d say the MC is worse in personality here. I can’t believe Wooju is 25.

i hate when yaoi characters wrongly retaliate. yea the kidnapping is horrible but if he’s raised by the kidnapper, wouldn’t a better solution be like physical violence for revenge or something ? what does sexual violence solve bruhh

and yea i read their last work and wasn’t a fan either!! the story was really messy and every character including their romances, felt forced but also rushed at the same time. what really sets the tone for their stories is how good the art is

im behind that opinion too, he has no sense of rationality and his air headed behavior gets worse and worse. part of what makes an mc captivating is their depth and he somehow has negative depth

Yeah I was confused too with the sexual violence,that’s why I said I don’t remember why the ML raped MC. Cause he could’ve idk beat the MC or any physical violence/jail than sexual. Maybe cause he was secretly attracted to his father and had been holding back(?) . Then got angry he was being fooled the whole time.

Ooh yes the art for K’s secret was so good, at least in the later chapters anyways. The beginning art was eh in my opinion. The author improved their art. I was wondering why professor looks so hot and handsome, and I realize he looks a bit similar to the ML from K’s secret. Might have a type!

While ML here looks more like that best friend of MC in K’s secret (I think—pretty type).

I wish someone could knock sense into Wooju, literally for his own sake too. Nobody else’s.