TJ is toxic and they make each other worse. TJ literally set up Ian so he would murder a guy to prevent him from going to be a racer like his dream which would result in him leaving TJ. TJ then made sure Ian would serve jail time for it even though it was technically self defense. TJ is also heavily involved in the criminal underworld and Ian doesn't want to be a criminal anymore.
I suggest you reread the story or else someone like this is going to skew a whole different story
That's exactly what he did though lol
no, he did not
Oh... I started wondering if I was reading this right cause I thought Ian murdered the guy cause he tried to kill TJ?
I don’t think he set him up to murder someone, but he definitely was the reason Ian had to go to prison. He was going to get no time and TJ intervened.
lets think logically here, a witness literally saw him drag a man back into a room and murder him, in what world would he have possibly not gotten time for that? The lawyers defense would have been self defense but the minute he dragged a person back into a room and kill them it stops being self defense. He literally committed a 2nd degree murder, so if anything Ian is lucky he only got 2 years. The only thing TJ is responsible when it comes to that situation is for giving him protection in jail and therefore putting him in debt
No we don't know the reason why the subordinate tried to kill Ian yet, all we know is that the subordinate tried to kill Ian --> Ian killed him in cold blood and there was a witness--> Ian got two years in jail
You’re thinking of the wrong murder. Ian killed the guy who tried to shoot him in his apartment. TJ got attorneys for him. The attorneys were going to try to get him off on self defense, TJ said make sure he gets two years so that he could trap him and make him stay. Someone else even asked if he was going to make him do those two years and TJs response was “I need him.”
It's literally the same murder. "The attorneys were going to try to get him off on self defense" and there you go, were going to try not an absolute and definitely hard with a witness who saw him drag a body back in a room to finish them off. As I said, only getting two years for murder is a slap on the wrist.
It was the murder when he walked in and the guy tried to shoot him. TJ said to call the attorney at the time. And when asked if he was really going to let him do those two years, he basically said yes. The fact that he was even asked that was an indication that he had a say in what happened. I don’t even think that other murder went to court. The attorneys were pleading self defense because it really was. The only problem they had was that it was done so efficiently they weren’t sure if that would cause an issue.
If witnesses were an issue it would have been brought up in the conversation between TJ and the attorneys, but it wasn’t. Because they were talking about the murder that occurred in the apartment. No one else was there.
Like, the entire point of including the conversation with the other gang member asking about the two years was to show that it was in TJs control. it’s right there in the dialogue.
The witness literally saw Ian drag a man (who was the subordinate who tried to kill him) back into the room, Ian mentioned it right after TJ walked into the room that the cops would be there any minute because the witness called them, that is when TJ asked for the lawyers. Again I ask you to think logically, these are gang members that get away with killing each other all the time. What was different this time is that they couldn't just get away with it BECAUSE there was a witness. Maybe TJ could have bribed of the cops or judge to let Ian go, yes that was in his control I agree since Doyak showed us how the cops work for TJ now in previous chapters.
If no one else was there Ian would have gotten away with the murder, he didn't get away with it because there was a witness and that is how the lawyers were involved. It being self defense is an argument the lawyers will have to prove to the jury of why the murder took place, that is how the justice system works in the US.
So yes, I forgot all about the witness. There was a witness there who saw him get attacked first. So that corroborates that this was self defense. The lawyer also stated that they had evidence that it was a hit that was put out on him. TJ says see to it that he gets two years. The attorneys look at each other like, “Didn’t we just say we could wrap this up as self defense?” Then just agree because that’s who they answer to. TJ is later asked why he wants to make him serve the two years and he responds that he wants to tie him down with money for protection in prison. It’s all right there in the dialogue. The attorneys were sure they’d be able to get him off, but TJ insisted on the two years.
So yes, TJ is the reason he went to prison. You can’t apply strict real world logic to a made up story when the writer makes it obvious that the whole point was that TJ used prison to create a debt that would keep Ian around.
The witness did not see him get attack first, all the witness saw was Ian dragging a man back inside a room (Ch. 28). The attorneys were not sure or guarantee they'd be able to get him off of murdering someone if anything they stated "It is troubling the attack... it was too professional to call it a spur of the moment at defense" --> Ian dragging a man back inside to finish him off. So again, making a hard argument in court at self defense. You can apply real world logic since that is literally what the author has been doing and intending with their writing all throughout the story.
Ian is the reason he went and got himself in prison. Ian killed someone and got caught. Idk why yall try to absolve him from his crime. Did TJ take advantage of that yes, that I agree on.
yea so simply put, ian got in prison because his subordinate tried to kill him and he have no other way but to kill the guy. tj had the chance to NOT make ian go to prison but he choose not to. in results ian can’t have that much job offer and only do welding cuz that’s the only thing he learn while in prison. also he had shit tons of debt for “protection” fee while he’s in prison because tj said he’s gonna tied him down with money. that’s all right?
Please go back and read chapter 14. They literally say “We can wrap this up as self defense” The woman was standing there when the gunshot went off. At this point idk. You do you, I guess.
And no one is trying to absolve him. He definitely killed that man. The man who was waiting for him with a gun. As he should have.
guys pls help me i’m slow and im really struggling to remeber but why can’t he be with tj? geniune question why does he want to leave him behind so badly? i feel like im forgetting if he did something plsss