caesar’s smallest crash out

levipleasecallmeback December 5, 2024 11:45 am

yk when people complain about caesar shooting mc, it was really annoying because the excuse was always “he’s in the mafia what do you expect” but the problem wasn’t the action itself or readers expecting some fairy tale fluffy romance. the issue with it was the lack of common sense and overall intelligence caesar should have. the shooting was unexpected because of the lack of build up. with how smart and calculating he is i felt like the reaction was… confusing and drastic ??? when it really could’ve been solved with one conversation instead of going from 0-10000

i feel the same way now with this self-mutilation… because leewon was obviously teasing and messing with caesar in order to hear him say sorry, and was clearly not serious. but again as a result of ceasars idiocy and impulsiveness, he crashed out for the dumbest mf reason

Responses
    Rio December 5, 2024 11:59 am

    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.

    It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him) you should read the novel.

    In the novel he literally thought of raping lee won the moment they bumped into eachother... The manwha is shockingly more tame than the novel (>0<;)

    It was me, Dildo! December 5, 2024 12:13 pm
    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him... Rio

    Reminder who is dmitri??

    haribo December 5, 2024 12:22 pm
    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him... Rio

    damn the necro one...... hes really crazy

    Rio December 5, 2024 12:28 pm
    Reminder who is dmitri?? It was me, Dildo!

    The cousin..

    jimiandbooks December 5, 2024 12:41 pm
    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him... Rio

    i’m guessing there’s no happy ending…

    yzeiy December 5, 2024 1:44 pm
    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him... Rio

    damn what chapter in the novel was the necro and dmitri wtf

    levipleasecallmeback December 5, 2024 7:49 pm
    He tried shooting a child and (in the novel) did necro with a woman who tried to kill him and had sex with dmitri once,.It's not shocking why he'd do what he does because we know hes unhinged (not defending him... Rio

    thanks for explaining it! this did not help me understand or like him though LMAO

    but it gives more context for his character, instead of making his actions only annoying and shocking. had they introduced him as an insane and psychotic character from the start, or we heard his inner thoughts i would’ve seen the shooting/self mutilation as a sensible plot choice

    imo the writing of the webtoon is bad, in terms of characterization. i don’t like when bad characters are evil without context or some type of explanation/motive. the times when we saw him take his anger or emotions out on leewon, it was out of nowhere and over the smallest of reasons. i felt like it clashed with his overall persona and reduced him to an abusive crash out bf

    levipleasecallmeback December 5, 2024 7:53 pm
    Reminder who is dmitri?? It was me, Dildo!

    the guy who wears the heart monitor for caesar

    and remember the side story where leewon and caesar were playing hunter/prey in the woods? dmitri was the guy caught in one of their traps and had to watch them having sex all night

    Rio December 6, 2024 2:37 pm
    thanks for explaining it! this did not help me understand or like him though LMAO but it gives more context for his character, instead of making his actions only annoying and shocking. had they introduced him ... levipleasecallmeback

    He was pushed into a world filled with violence and didn't receive any love as he was growing up, having to kill, defend and do sadistic acts in order to survive, a world like that would fuck up your perspective in your formative years.

    When children often get exposed to those levels of violence they often rely on other forms of comfort even if its unhealthy wether it be self harm or sex. Violent environments create violent people, and as Ceasar grew older and became an adult he mixed violence with his sex life. (Something I can partially relate to.)

    Since he was also an heir to an influential mafia group he's also probably used to getting what he wants, that's why he cares less about consequences and cares more about results, like when he faked his death by having to be stabbed to fool the traitors and endangering lee won to execute the rat.

    If you lived in a world where empathy can get you killed, you'd have to turn into a monster. Although what he does isn't justified, there are explanations on why he commits heinous acts.

    Rio December 6, 2024 2:42 pm
    thanks for explaining it! this did not help me understand or like him though LMAO but it gives more context for his character, instead of making his actions only annoying and shocking. had they introduced him ... levipleasecallmeback

    Again not defending him but he wasn't born evil, he's just a product of two People who we're burned by the fire of their cruel environment and then passing that torch to burn Cesar aswell, rather than give him warmth.

    So yeah long story short, his environment was fucked up so that's why he's like that

    levipleasecallmeback December 6, 2024 9:55 pm
    He was pushed into a world filled with violence and didn't receive any love as he was growing up, having to kill, defend and do sadistic acts in order to survive, a world like that would fuck up your perspectiv... Rio

    ok while i get that, my issue is how they don’t show this in the webtoon… i get where u are coming from, but i don’t care about caesar enough to research or sympathize with him . my main takeaway is only about the lack of context + characterization. lowkey your statement makes implies i knew all this about caesar, but chose to disregard it and say ignorant things about someone who grew up in horrible conditions. im well educated in how nature and nurturing a child can influence their behavior/outlooks towards the world!! but my focus is complaining about how badly written the story was, and sure while i get the novel explained it- the webtoon fails to

    without his lore, he basically looks like a flat, toxic, and violent character who has worse communication skills than a baby. with all the info you gave on him it further proved i truly dgaf about this evil caucasian man LMAO

    Rio December 7, 2024 12:58 am
    ok while i get that, my issue is how they don’t show this in the webtoon… i get where u are coming from, but i don’t care about caesar enough to research or sympathize with him . my main takeaway is only ... levipleasecallmeback

    its better written in the novel, they had to tame down the story to not make it to the level of killing stalking so that the characters are still lovable.