Is there some sort of disease happening that I’m not aware of?

PrettyMenSupremacy November 23, 2024 8:09 pm

Cause what the hell is up with BL writers writing the most sudden and butt ass endings these days. I seen so many like are y’all okay??? We got
Seme grapes Uke - END
Uke was being a dick then put dog collar around his neck - END
Seme confessed he likes Uke after being a big dick for 64 chapters - END
Are writers genuinely okay these days????

Responses
    Luffyttaro November 23, 2024 8:17 pm

    Are the readers okay? Is anyone okay?

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 23, 2024 8:18 pm
    Are the readers okay? Is anyone okay? Luffyttaro

    THIS, we will never be okay (⊙…⊙ )

    LGtfo November 23, 2024 8:50 pm

    What BLs are u referring to

    Gurl November 23, 2024 8:54 pm

    its either those short ass manhwas that wanna be "mysterious/open ending" types and fail badly lmao or the ones that are treated shitty by their publishing companies and have to rush and end it abruptly. If these aren't the reasons then it's just incompetent writers but again I'm just a reader and that too on an illegal site so...
    ┐(´ー`)┌

    Yeehaoi November 23, 2024 9:07 pm

    good artists and good storytellers rarely ever become one person. Thats why we have stories like jinx and bj alex. So i really look forward to BL novels being turned into manhwas

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 23, 2024 9:10 pm
    What BLs are u referring to LGtfo

    Concealing sacred simplicity
    Perfect leash
    Sunshine shower

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 23, 2024 9:10 pm
    its either those short ass manhwas that wanna be "mysterious/open ending" types and fail badly lmao or the ones that are treated shitty by their publishing companies and have to rush and end it abruptly. If the... Gurl

    ╥﹏╥ if that’s the case then I hope they get some good rest

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 23, 2024 9:11 pm
    good artists and good storytellers rarely ever become one person. Thats why we have stories like jinx and bj alex. So i really look forward to BL novels being turned into manhwas Yeehaoi

    It’s not even the story for some of these. I actually liked the plot of some of these and then sh happens and they like BYE. Like what?

    轻轻落下来的叶子 November 27, 2024 7:12 am

    Most BL writers don't write with a purpose, but with a ship idea.

    They like the idea of these two characters being together, not what happens.

    Worse still, they like situations, not plot.

    What this means, is that you get stories that have very good beginnings and very bad ends because they stuff everything they like into the front.

    It would honestly be a joke to call these people writers because they aren't writing as they are just making conveniences for themselves. They write interesting beginnings and even interesting middles, not because the story is good, but because the fragments of ideas they had just so happen to be good.

    If you genuinely want to write something, you need to have an ending to it that has purpose. This goes a lot for shounen too.

    Romance also lends itself better to one shots than it does anything too long since it's a pretty straight forward topic.

    So, when a BL writer sits down and comes up with an idea, they don't come up with an end or a purpose, but a beginning and an idea. They don't really know what they are going to do, they just make a sort of story and cross their fingers.

    Actually a really good example where this does NOT happen is in a lot of visual novels like Slow Damage.

    The reason why Slow Damage was lauded as being a masterpiece (I'd argue against that tbh, only Fujieda's route could be considered that good) is because it specifically addresses this problem most BL fans are very used to - that is, good beginning shitty end. By nature, visual novels have the tendency to be better at this since there is the rule of saving the best for the "true" route, but Slow Damage does this particularly well because its entire story was basically a save for the ending. Everything that happened built up to the ending. What this means is that the people who made this game wrote it with the ending and the story's purpose in mind.

    Most BLs don't do this.

    So when a story 'ends' abruptly, it's not really that the author just suddenly gave up, but that they just never had an ending in mind. I don't think the 'good' yaoi end off well either most of the time, they just 'happen' to end slightly better than most so people laud them as being excellent.

    Then there are oneshots. Oneshots are unique in that the purpose of a oneshot is mood moreso than story often. Even Harada isn't limited to this. Harada is a mood more than they are a story because they require the reader to understand the mood to understand the story. This is inherently the nature of a short story. So yes, while oneshots have very definite and usually pretty good endings, that's because it's a short story and if an author botches that up, they are truly special.

    Then there are the good endings. Good endings are endings are like Slow Damage. The ending is permeated throughout the story and you are prompted the point of the story throughout the entire reading. Slow Damage suffers a little bit in that it revealed more than necessary, but it did so enough that when the ending came out, everyone can agree it is the best ending. It's the ending that makes sense. Most of Slow Damage revolved around the MC, Towa, helping others out with their problems, but the true ending has Towa receiving the much needed help, which is something that the built up to. They didn't even needed to honestly, since by the end the only character people really wanted to know anything about was Towa.

    But the point is, a story needs to work towards an end. If the story doesn't work towards an end, then it'll seem abrupt. Even if the ending is actually well suited to the story itself, it might get cancelled if it isn't spoon fed to readers. This is best found in MHA.

    The ending to MHA is the perfect ending for Midoriya as a character, but people hate it because it ruins their immersion of the situation the author had promised in the beginning. MHA has functionally the Full Metal Alchemist ending where he exchanged everything he wanted to stay as he is as a person. It is a good ending, but it's so hated because Full Metal Alchemist was 1) better paced 2) never sold itself as a never-ending boost up story like MHA. Midoriya's ending is a harsh wake up call to everyone about what is means to be a good person, and people don't want to handle that. MHA also suffered under a sudden push to end, so it was rushed as well. The author probably didn't really know what to do, I honestly think its ending was just a massive coincidence when it overlapped perfectly with Midoriya's character.

    This is basically why a lot of BL endings just suck. Even the so-called good ones aren't 'good' as they are just 'better' and people don't really think that hard about them so they don't care.

    PrettyMenSupremacy November 27, 2024 7:19 am
    Most BL writers don't write with a purpose, but with a ship idea. They like the idea of these two characters being together, not what happens.Worse still, they like situations, not plot.What this means, is that... 轻轻落下来的叶子

    First of all, I appreciate you so much for taking the time out of your day to write this beautiful essay. And honestly I think I get it now. It's still kind of sad to see manhwas leaving on just the worst possible note ever but guess that's manhwas by artists without proper planning ig. I do think ones with an actual story behind them such as novels tend to end better as they've been planned out. Visual novels that have amazing plotlines, well orchestrated choices that have an effect on the storyline and endings too.
    Also bls gotta balance relationships with plot so most tend to be kinda unbalanced especially for people with deadlines. ( ̄∇ ̄")
    but yea, thank you for explaining it in detail, means a lot!