skylar hasnt done anything wrong what are you on about? Cirrus is the one who never tells the truth and is extremly unstable and claims to do all of these things out of "love". He has issues, dont get me wrong i love cirrus im a cirrus kinnie, but as someone with bpd which i headcanon cirrus as having, its very hard for a partner to deal with and you cant expect someone to just deal with all that and act like everythings okay.
all of cirrus's lies are not okay and he needs therapy. Skylar hasnt done anything wrong, hes given cirrus multiple chances to just stop lying and be honest.
Cirrus is the epitome of selflessness in these the last chapters tho? He's literally selfless because he thinks he's worthless and wants Skylar to be happy even if it's not with him, he left him alone to focus on his exams too, he was ok with being a dirty secret..? I don't see what he did wrong while they dated?
Also I'm pretty sure beating Cirrus in the face because he asked a question and telling him he's incapable of love because he was abused and has no mother could be qualifed as 'wrong'. Y'all bring up issues from when Cirrus didn't care about Skylar, while Skylar was cruel to the man he CHOSE to date. There's a reason he was the one to chase him this time and to give a (weak) apology. Because he was wrong.
Exactly.
Kudos!!!
He still hasnt really explained anything to Skylar though, Skylar has the right to be upset. He asked cirrus about it and let him have the chance to be truthful and explain. But Cirrus once again lied...ofcourse he'd be upset. Yes he did say some harsh things and he's not perfect but neither is Cirrus.
I love them both I just want them to be happy
also cirrus trauma does not excuse the things hes done. Hes manipulated the people around skylar and lied multiple times. He needs therapy
Read ch 125 and u will get your dose of happiness u shall see
He APOLOGISED!! And he’s actually working on himself that’s basically what the previous user told u but u missed the point entirely and not everything is “solved” with therapy.
Then Skylar's trauma doesn't excuse him being cruel and physically violent even if he's hurt, angry or triggered, or the way he's treated Cirrus in their relationship. (I actually don't believe that but am using your words which a lot of litc stans share, I think trauma explains a lot and can even excuse some things, but that's a more nuanced take than acceptable on this site).
He apologized, changed for better, begged on his knees to not lose Skylar, put himself last to make sure Skylar was comfortable... I don't know if one day they'll ever see that poor boy through anything but a malicious, manipulating lense. Also therapy is cute but for teens who don't want to open up? From experience it's just a waste of time lol
In fact it didn’t work with Skylar a lot lol but some people who read LITC are too young to have that emotional intelligence and it shows.
Can apology change anything? NO.
Imagine thinking skylar defenders are young people + the ad hominem
Not everything is solved by therapy? Yes, some can’t but Cirrus-Skylar situation could HAVE BEEN solved by a therapy. HAHSHWNDHWHWHW imagine calling the other party young, claiming yourself to have more emotional intelligence but you don’t believe that this situation is unsolvable by therapy. The fallacy is rising up lolol
Chose to date or manipulated onto dating? You need to reread again smh
I have been a fan of LITC since its release, these new readers cannot seem to comprehend the series they are reading. Both have fault but Cirrus himself has anticipated this because he has not been honest to his relationship with Skylar. His weak ass apology from the earlier chapter + him repeating the manipulation several times seems to be forgotten by these readers.
Chose to date. He was not manipulated into dating him at all lmao. And ain't no one telling me to reread a story I know I understand better than 95% of readers.
Have you ever been to therapy as a teen with depression and mental disorders ? Or seen it happen and work? You people would have a stroke if you discover anti-psychiatry movements and all the harmful flaws of therapy. Throwing "they need therapy" around because you heard people say the same thing and it sounds right isn't intelligent but again I don't expect bl readers to have nuanced thoughts about anything.
So Skylar's apology doesn't change the fact that he is capable of cruelty and violence? You know what let me agree.
Y'all don't need to be young to have the most generalized, biased, bland takes. And if anything I don't even hate Skylar, I relate to him a lot and think he's not a good person (nor is most people in Cirrus' entourage) *to* Cirrus. If I wanted I could defend him too than but I simply don't want to when he's not being slandered by anyone anyway, y'all just get somehow triggered when we point out what he did wrong (which is not a lot but still significant) even though you all seem to agree that they're both wrong, which is supposed to include Skylar.
I just want Cirrus to be happy.
I don’t think Skylar deserves Cirrus tbh. Cirrus will do everything for Skylar. But since he is so damn in love with Skylar, there’s no doubt that he will give in right away. I just hope Skylar will have a character development.