Feels like bunch of kids fighting in the comment section. Always taking it up the face val...

It feels like bunch of kids because they are kids. I guarantee you 90% here are under the age of 10 and can't fully comprehend layers and depth and people being flawed.
There is always the option to not read but they still do. Why? Because they enjoy it too and to cope they are toxic in the comments and wish death upon the comic artist and the fans instead of... idk? Not reading? Lol

So true! This is the reason why I have stopped reading readers review which are 75% of the time hate comments. I read first few chapters and if I don't like it, I just drop it. Which by the way I learned along the way since I was the type who always always see through the end once I picked up something. Later I realised not every story out there is for me and I don't have to be mean about it

Yep, I like toxic semes and redemption arcs because this never happens in real life lol but even I have some stories that are big NOPE for me. Discussiong likes and dislikes is fine but this obsessive hate is insane.

bro why do y'all always call the horrible rapist chatacter 'layered' and 'flawed' like no bitch he's just shit. like raping someone doesn't make your life story so much deeper than anybody else's and honestly i would rather invest my time in reading a story where the 'layered' and 'flawed' character is actually deep and not just a horrible man with a hot body

Yea, go read it. Bye

i just wonder why y'all enjoy these characters. like what do you get out of rooting for a character who will forever be anything they are AND a rapist. like how do you look past that?

Why should anyone justify enjoying a fictional story/character to you? In fact it is weirder if you don't enjoy the story or hate it and you still read it but it is your choice to read a story with ML that you hate, you are an adult (hopefully) and you understand that this is just fiction. You understand that this is just fantasy for those that like to enjoy some drama and you also understand that this is not real life. If you aren't an adult then leave for your own good.

couple things:
1) you're not obliged, of course. but if you don't explain then don't get mad that people disagree with you.
2) i didn't fully read this story. i'm commenting only because of how disgusted i am with it. could you say i'm wasting my time? sure, fair enough.
(ps: if you pull out some "you gotta read the entire thing to understand", literally stfu)
3) i know it's fiction but fiction mimics reality. if someone found joy in reading fictional depictions of child torture, would you think "it's just fiction and being an adult means all fictional work is valid"? or would you think "yo why the fuck do you enjoy reading about child torture?"? i think it's pretty clear that enjoying a story that depicts rape not in spite of it but because of it is telling about a person's character.
4) rape, sexual violence and financial manipulation aren't the only ways (they're not even the best/easiest ways) to make a story dramatic. characters can be flawed without being outright terrible people. many stories i've read have ruined characters last minute for falling into this trope of making a character into a rapist to give them more depth, as if rape isn't mainly about power and control.

Sweetie, honey calm down. We listen to what everybody says but don't agree to what everybody says. Now remember this whenever you feel like venting

i'm not asking you to agree with me but instead explain why you disagree with me. i feel like my point of view makes sense and i don't understand yours. there's no need to get defensive if you have a valid reason to think the way you do.

There is no need to explain it to you. Fiction and thoughts are not illegal even if what is depicted is.
Unless you are a supporter of anti free speech, thoughts policing and book burning.
There are certain things that I find deplorable and would never read even in fiction but as long as it is not allowed for kids and nobody gets harmed while making it then I don't give a shit and you shouldn't either.
Adults have the right to read anything and can decide to do anything they want as long as it is not illegal.
If you truly care about rape then you should join or give money to non profit organizations for child sex trafficking. There are many organizations to help victims in underdeveloped and developed countries. If I'm not wrong a woman gets raped every 2 hours in Pakistan, they ACTUALLY need help. Please, if you truly want to do good and not just be toxic, go help those in need instead of wanting to censor gay comic about toxic cartoon man that you didn't even read. Be real.

Fine I'll explain it to you, slowly.

First of all stop shouting rape, rape at every conflicted sex scene. What they entered into was mutually advantageous and CONSENSUAL deal. Now let's address the part he could've been gentle or whatever, the first sight Dan literally saw was Jakeyung being rough and moody with his previous sex partner. Next part, When Jakeyung assumed Dan already had experience(that was asshole move), he didn't deny it and was in pain.

With all this point I am not justifying jakeyung being an asshole, because that he is. But I'm asking where is the rape. Dan wasn't threatened or manipulated into staying as well, he can leave anytime. Dan was really helpless with his situation so he endured it but he endured with knowing everything with his own will.

Stop demeaning the word RAPE, it's very real and very traumatizing.

What pilwon did to Jooha was rape, he threatened him, kept him captive even. Do i like pilwon? It makes me puke to even think about him but there are ppl who do like him for whatever reasons. Am I going around asking why? No.

Infact, the "green flag" Dooshik had also staged a rape and he is the "Husband" Of entire bl community. People say it was for revenge for his love, he was broken. But tell me, does a rapist's family deserve rape for it to be fair? Does anyone "deserve" Rape? It's fact and I am not criticizing any fictional character over here.

Read and comprehend before being influenced into shouting the same thing as everyone else. Everyone have their own set of moral compass and if we go by other people standards then isn't having sex before marriage highly immoral? Why are we reading that?

That will be your homework, now good night

please do not pretend you give a single fuck about actual rape victims. it's honestly disgusting that you would weaponize their situation to make me look bad. and i say disgusting bc it literally has my stomach churning that you're this opposed to being questioned.
you're free to think what you want but that doesn't mean you're free from criticism when you express what you think.
and also how fucking dare you? how dare you compare being suggested to critically consume art to book burning and thought policing?

a couple things:
1) it was rape because it was coerced. he went to jakeyung's place under false pretenses. as soon as he went in, he witnessed jakeyung (a boxing champ btw) physically assault his sexual partner. only then was it revealed that the entire reason he was called over was so he would have sex with him which he does accept under some very sketchy circumstances (bet you've heard of financial manipulation, that's what that was). he was made to choose between letting someone he only knows to be violent penetrate him anally so he'd get money or leaving without anything, and he had very little time to decide (my point is, when your options are "let yourself be raped" or "be unable to afford living", you're not really making a choice either way).
dan says "yes" to being asked if he's experienced, which jakeyung takes to mean it's all fine and dandy to force himself on him. dan is able to slither away but only for an hour after which he is thrown on the bed and dragged around as he yells "wait" and "i can't do this" to which jakeyung threatenes him with violence (quote "if you waste my time like that last little bitch, don't expect to be sent home safe and sound"). have i refreshed your memory enough? like threatening violence if someone rejects having sex with you is coercion but let's continue!!
he is then anally penetrated both by jakeyung's finger and by his penis, to which he yells "stop" and "it hurts". jakeyung does in fact not stop and threatens dan again ("keep testing my patience and i'll smash your head in") and tells him to "just take it" (like any good rapist does amirite). we also learn jakeyung likes making dan cry (from the pain btw) and that dan started bleeding from his ass.

2) pilwon is a rapist and one of the worst characters i've had the displeasure to read about but i wasn't reading pearl boy (back when i was still reading it) for him (because i'm morally consistent). i stopped reading it after the whole arranged gang rape thing dooshik organized. idk why you're projecting but since i am consistent, i dislike that character just as much and have had the same discussion i'm having with you with them. and guess what? y'all think the exact same way.

Struck a nerve huh? Lets not rewrite history and gaslight, you joined the conversation because you don't like other people reading and enjoying what you dislike, it was never about criticizing the manwha but US.
Yes, YOU actually don't care about rape victims, YOU only care about hating on readers of a comic that has motives that you don't like that's why you come here and argue with us even though the manwha hasn't been going for months because you want to feel like you are doing something good but actually, anything you are doing here is worthless and you are not helping a single victim. You come here just to argue, to feel like you matter and you are doing something but if you really wanted to help you would stop right now and go help others in dire situations. It literally takes one google search but no, you are here arguing with adults about what they can or cannot read. You are the part of the problem. Instead of focusing on what truly matters (real human victims) you are crying about imaginary characters. GROW THE FUCK UP, LOSER. And you now think that I am the bad one for bringing it up? I'm just stating reality and how shallow and worthless your actions are.You brought this upon yourself.

Hi there. Victim of SA here. Friend of a victim of rape here. Person who has done years of work analyzing how consent is taught in school curriculum and how it appears in media here. Person who is currently assistant teaching a class on sex ed here. Person who is currently doing paid research to help develop college curriculum meant to prevent sexual violence on campuses here.

I don’t agree with everything the other person is saying and how they’re framing their argument. But I do agree that there is an extent to which you can derive someone’s opinions and beliefs on real life issues based off of how they engage with the art and media they consume—not WHAT art and media they consume, but HOW they engage with it. You can probably also figure out what societal messages they’ve internalized, too. Personally, I have no issues with Jinx existing. I mean, I think it could be far, far better written and has wasted potential (I’m rereading it now and taking notes so that I can delve deeper into my own thoughts and analysis), and I think the way that the story ultimately lands will indeed in and of itself be harmful as it might reinforce a narrative that is often told to people in our society (“just stick it out with your abusive partner, it’ll be worth it in the end”), but, okay. Fine. It’s out there.

But as someone who IS, you know. Concerned about things like rape and sexual assault. I do find it deeply concerning when many people read this webtoon and can’t identify what is happening in the story as such. Or are willing to use incredibly classical victim-blaming narratives to justify what happens. I can understand looking past it or turning your brain off or even enjoying the non consensual element(s) if that’s your thing, so long as you can ultimately see how and why it’s not consensual or, at the very least, unethical. I become incredibly worried when people…can’t do that.

Today I got to know from a random stranger on the internet that I am a horrible person. Noted. I will add it to my resume.

Now get out of my comment section.

of course it struck a nerve lmao? i'm human and the shit you're saying is truly disturbing, it does make me feel like shit knowing that people like you exist.
also you only ever bring up victims to take the focus off of yourself, you do in fact not give a flying fuck.
consuming art uncritically and justifying immoral acts does influence how you percieve the world. you may think the line between fiction and reality is crystal clear but i bet you've internalized ideas and concepts from fiction and applied them to reality.

lastly, let me just show you my argument in a way that'd be more agreeable:
let's say someone is reading a webtoon and the main character (A) is 12 and the main love interest (B) is 40. people in the comments talk about how nice B is to A but there's this one commenter saying they're all weird and horrible for justifying pedophilia, even if it's fictional. what would you make of the people defending B's actions? would you not think they're messed up? would that mean that the people critiquing them don't care about real life child sexual abuse victims because they're commenting about the webtoon?

naur cause you wildly accused me of defending a similar character (which i actually also hate) and had me describe in detail how the rape was depicted and this is your response? just admit you didn't pay that much attention and rape took place.
also "get out of my comment section"? lmao who do you think you are?

Sigh. You clearly don't comprehend what you read, you just proved it, it was an example and i never said you were defending the similar character. Your problem is you want to "win" the argument. Daddy issues?

You have caused enough toxicity for my monthly quota so yes please leave respectfully and who am I?
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