#1 heonjae fan on the case

eddie_i October 30, 2024 9:50 am

guys please it's so obvious he was groomed and sexually abused by his teacher. it's been implied over and over again. just because he had a crush on his teacher at first does NOT mean he was the one who initiated it. u srsly got me fucked up if you're calling heonjae weird for being a victim
in a relationship with a teacher and student there will always be a power dynamic and an age gap, possibly an illegal one depending on the ages. it's always wrong and it's always grooming. DO NOT PISS ME OFF!!!!
i am fighting demons typing this out in my stiff wrist brace but u guys need to STOP being so judgemental towards heonjae. like genuinely. if you hate him so much STOP READING. "omg this is so problematic" YES GIRL there's rape in the like. third chapter. WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP READING THEN.

moving on. I'm happy to see people accepting that Heonjae is genuinely autismcoded. last time i said this i got called ableist as if I'm not autistic myself...now i hope u people will be a bit more mindful on the ableist rhetoric u spew... psychopath this sociopath that. he has repeatedly shown empathy, sympathy, and care for others. he cares about myeong-il more than he cares about himself for example which makes it impossible for him to be a sociopath or psychopath

also calling him a weirdo for just showing autistic symptoms is weird. like not getting social cues... very strange. if i see any of u shittalking heonjae for bs reasons I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be watching. u will see me reply.

Responses
    bruce October 30, 2024 9:52 am

    YUPPP! YUPPPPPPP!

    Watcher October 30, 2024 10:08 am

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    Heonjae fan here too, but so far in the raws, the crimes of the teacher is him taking Heonjae's first place cash prizes in the races for himself and only giving Heonjae 1% of it, and him being a selfish prick who trained Heonjae so wrongly that his knee suffered and tore a ligament.

    Last we see of the teacher, he became like a homeless guy that comes knocking at the construction company office where Jingi and Heonjae works.

    Not sure how Heonjae ends up having s*x with the teacher yet. Hmmm, I'm low key guessing for money maybe?

    fawn October 30, 2024 10:15 am

    ILYSM OMG FINALLY I FOUND ANOTHER HEONJAE FAN

    Kurosawa October 30, 2024 2:00 pm

    Thank you for this my fellow Heonjae supporter

    Ya, October 30, 2024 2:26 pm

    I LOVE YOU

    Lilysky October 30, 2024 4:05 pm

    Just because you were a victim it doesn’t give you the right to becoming an agresor. Which is what Heonjae is. I understand that he had a lot of struggles growing up, which led him to become the person he is now…. But… also… let’s be honest, he does not care about MC the way y’all think he does. He’s doing all of this for his OWN BENEFIT. He’s infatuated with the MC, he also HURTS the MC. He is no better than Jingi. ALSO. I am not ignoring the fact that he might be autistic. Again… it doesn’t give him the right to do the things he does. HES A CRIMINAL. I hate them all, lmao. However, I want to see where the story goes. Because it’s a decent story. Carry on. I enjoy reading y’all’s points of views. I think we can have peaceful discussions and makes this story more appealing, cause I want to see what people got to say! Haha

    Twips October 30, 2024 8:21 pm

    i think he might have some form of an obsessive disorder along with the autism. yes im autistic too and i can see some of that in his behavior

    turtlesss October 30, 2024 9:18 pm

    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it gives the rest of us a bad rep. we’re allowed to hate heonjae for how he treats meongill, we can hate him for his criminal record. but i do agree that hating on him for his neurodivergent traits without knowing why or how it affects him is pretty dumb. excusing his actions and shit on these reasons just places horrible stereotypes on us. hold people accountable for their actions. you cant just let people get away with shit for being nd. “oh dw about my friend here i know he abused you for years both mentally and verbally but its okay bc he has bpd, youll just have to deal with it lol he cant help it<3” thats literally the energy youre giving.

    turtlesss October 30, 2024 9:21 pm
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making the rest of us look bad.

    rawr October 31, 2024 11:53 am
    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making t... turtlesss

    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Autism ACTUALLY is, because hes not so high on the spectrum that he can't understand right from wrong

    Twips November 1, 2024 3:42 am
    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Auti... rawr

    my comment was just agreeing on him being autistic coded. I meant to add what you all have been saying. Im hoping that OP is just saying dont call him a weirdo for this teacher grooming situation? Just to give benefit of the doubt

    bruce November 1, 2024 9:57 am
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    i don’t think op ever said anything about excusing his actions ? he said to stop hating on heonjae for bs reasons, such as the autistic traits he displays and for potentially being groomed … not for reasonable stuff like being a rapist. bringing irl comparisons into this argument kind of also immediately makes it invalid as it’s not comparable at all as heonjae is not real and it comes across as a bit insensitive to me. op is saying to not call heonjae weird for the autistic traits he displays (which a lot of being accidentally do) and for being potentially groomed (a lot of people have been calling heonjae gross and victim blaming him for it) as of course heonjae will not see these comments bc he’s not real but victims of teacher-student grooming and people who have autism will see those comments. majority of people i’ve seen do not shame heonjae for his actual crimes but for literally everything else

    bruce November 1, 2024 10:01 am
    i don’t think op ever said anything about excusing his actions ? he said to stop hating on heonjae for bs reasons, such as the autistic traits he displays and for potentially being groomed … not for reasona... bruce

    i think a lot of you have this issue of seeing a fictional character on the same level as real people and don’t like to allow anyone to explore characters like this when the only time you *should* be exploring the reasons and motives of a rapist is in a fictional setting. and before YOU come at me, i’m also autistic with c-ptsd. op is also autistic like he said

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:16 am
    i misspelled myeong-il mb but yeah before anyone comes after me for this take, just know im autistic, have bpd avpd and cptsd. for the love of god stop excusing the bad in people with nd conditions and making t... turtlesss

    How many of those are professionally diagnosed, genuinely asking and how old are you

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:17 am
    THANK YOU!! That's like saying a man can rape a woman because he was raped in the past. It doesn't justify!!! Then using autism to say he doesn't understand no? I don't think half of these people know what Auti... rawr

    friend i think you misunderstood my comment. i'm saying people need to stop calling him freaky or weird in this specific panel where he's clearly being groomed; also, no, autism doesn't excuse rape? I'm not sure where you got that from my comment

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:21 am
    just bc he is a victim and neurodivergent does NOT give him the right to act the way he does nor excuse his actions. its simply an explanation. excusing this behaviour just bc of his childhood or mentality. it ... turtlesss

    when have i literally ever said that his diagnoses excuse him being a rapist. all i said was stop hating on him *for* these autistic traits and stop calling him a psychopath etc because it's ableist. i never once said "you cant hate him because he's a rapist" BCS he literally is one. ik that. I'm mad at people mischaracterizing him and being ableist in the process. because yes he's a rapist. this entire manhwa has a lot of rape in it. they're criminals. no shit they're gonna be bad people

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:24 am
    Just because you were a victim it doesn’t give you the right to becoming an agresor. Which is what Heonjae is. I understand that he had a lot of struggles growing up, which led him to become the person he is ... Lilysky

    thank u for being the only person in my replies being lowkey reasonable.
    yes it doesn't give him the right to become an aggressor, i hope you know i don't think that, him being a rapist is wrong even if he was raped. i definitely think he cares about MC in his own way, he cares enough to not want MC to think of him badly, to not want to hurt him (consciously) even if consistently violates boundaries and consent
    i think him and jingi are on opposite ends of the same spectrum, both bad people but they definitely treat MC badly in different ways

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:25 am
    i think a lot of you have this issue of seeing a fictional character on the same level as real people and don’t like to allow anyone to explore characters like this when the only time you *should* be explorin... bruce

    thank you my loyal dickrider.

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:27 am
    ILYSM OMG FINALLY I FOUND ANOTHER HEONJAE FAN fawn

    OMG ILYT WE STAND UNITED

    eddie_i November 1, 2024 10:27 am
    Thank you for this my fellow Heonjae supporter Kurosawa

    my right hand man right here. we never rest.