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⚛Christ-san⚛ October 29, 2024 5:24 am

I wonder if I'm the only one who doesn't really like the tropes where the seme or uke doesn't know basic things about sex. Like really? At 20 something you don't know how to jerk off? It just really creeps me out with the whole "I'll teach you" shit cause it feels like something a predator would say... I dunno bruh it's just a pet peeve of mine. I still liked this tho and that's the only thing I didn’t really enjoy much

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    Dayu October 30, 2024 10:27 pm

    Same. This had potential but they just had to include a sex scene like that. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Jasper ◕`ε´◕  November 24, 2024 5:44 pm

    Well
    He wasn't evn given enough attention or taught by his parents n servants and was literally neglected to the point where everyone didn't evn like him or saw him as an out cast so makes sense that he wasn't aware of such. Maybe he knew what was needed to be done to conceive but as I've said he never really needed to jerk off coz he was always isolated and alone and nothing interest him to the point that he himself blame him for even existing.

    ⚛Christ-san⚛ November 25, 2024 6:12 pm
    Well He wasn't evn given enough attention or taught by his parents n servants and was literally neglected to the point where everyone didn't evn like him or saw him as an out cast so makes sense that he wasn't... Jasper ◕`ε´◕ 

    I suppose but like at the same time he wasnt really sheltered(or atleast stopped from learning about things). He was free to do as he wish, he just chose not to since he was scared, he was bullied but he still had access to things around him. Also I dont really get why the parents and servants neglecting him would matter regarding him not knowing how to masturbate. Your parents and servants don't teach you that-
    He also probably had teachers, he's the one managing the household so someone must've taught him how. So if the author wanted it they could've made it that the teacher atleast taught uke about basic sex ed and urges and he only chose not to.
    Also Uke is probably in early 20s so its really unlikely he never had any urges before especially in his teens. Maybe it's different since he's not humans but its not like they don't feel lust at all right? tbh idk.
    If he reads novels he for sure should've seen atleast one with a sex but maybe they dont read novels.

    but what you said does make sense considering how introverted uke is. He doesnt really have any friends and kids usually find out about things like masturbating from their peers or the internet(still not from the parents or servants tho lol) which would make sense him not finding about it from others. We really are just lacking more context

    And just to be clear, I'm not hating on uke or the story. I just dont like the clueless about sex trope in general. Author-san really likes innocent ukes. most of their works has them, and i dont have a problem with that. What I dont like is the clueless ones. It just really seems creepy for me cause they usually include dialogues where the more experienced one says things like "Wow, why don't i teach you how to make you feel good" and those are what predators commonly tell ther clueless victims that's why i feel creeped out/disgusted by it. that's why I commented about that scene in the manga, I do it in all the mangas i see it in tbf. those types of scenes just really really gives me the ick since I've been SA'D as a child(sorry to trauma dump lol)

    Slytherinlarrie December 10, 2024 4:06 pm

    It doesn’t seem like he’s entirely clueless, he knows about the sex drive of his species and aphrodisiacs etc, just never had the desire before

    >Christ-san< December 11, 2024 7:28 am
    It doesn’t seem like he’s entirely clueless, he knows about the sex drive of his species and aphrodisiacs etc, just never had the desire before Slytherinlarrie

    I suppose he's not entirely clueless but still really clueless. He literally asked the seme how to make his erection go down and wasn't even sure about what "get off" meant. And when the seme jerked him off he was like "is this how its supposed to feel like?" And even said "No! Somethings coming out!" When he was Cumming. Honestly, knowing what an aphrodisiac does to your Kind's body and shit when you don't even know what jerking off means and what comes out of your dick is worse than not knowing anything at all-
    Again maybe it's just because he was uninterested about sex and all cause of their low sex drive but it's still hella icky for me

    Jasper ◕`ε´◕  December 11, 2024 10:33 am
    I suppose he's not entirely clueless but still really clueless. He literally asked the seme how to make his erection go down and wasn't even sure about what "get off" meant. And when the seme jerked him off he ... >Christ-san<

    I know you might think I'm lying but....it's real
    I never knew anything about this cum thingy that comes out from our body. Nor did I knw anything regarding jerking off or masturbation.
    I didn't even know we could masterbate

    >Christ-san< December 11, 2024 11:55 am
    I know you might think I'm lying but....it's realI never knew anything about this cum thingy that comes out from our body. Nor did I knw anything regarding jerking off or masturbation.I didn't even know we coul... Jasper ◕`ε´◕ 

    Till you were 20?

    Jasper ◕`ε´◕  December 11, 2024 1:15 pm
    Till you were 20? >Christ-san<

    Yes could have been more than 20+ if I did not find bL
    Because I never really had the urge of anything or do it unlike this generation where literally kids under 18 have already started even losing their virginity before even becoming a proper adult.
    And yes I do now know what masterbating is and how it's done but I've not done it myself still now.
    I'm like that guy from "cherry magic" but I've never touched myself down there or have jerked off. And yes we people exist too but it's just not what we share to people because of being wanting to remain pure and others totally looked down or make fun of us by saying 'he/she's still a virgin'
    So ya.....
    And yes my sisters can also be an exmple because we literally share each other everything and anything witout being shy, morever they're more than 25+ and still doesn't do anything of this kinds, you may not believe me on this but it's the truth. Not everyone is same, we just live in a completely different country with different mindset(don't get me wrong here I'm just stating a different thinking and thought) so you can see, I'm an inexperienced person myself. Morever in my place, we tend to regard inexperienced person as somone who is still pure and innocent and a good person who doesn't play around.
    Like ya experience is also important but too much is also bad because we don't know how he/she's actual character is.

    Jasper ◕`ε´◕  December 11, 2024 1:26 pm
    Yes could have been more than 20+ if I did not find bL Because I never really had the urge of anything or do it unlike this generation where literally kids under 18 have already started even losing their virgin... Jasper ◕`ε´◕ 

    Btw I'm 20 rn
    Met bL when I was 18 running.....
    I only came to mangag0 for reading shoujo manga and romance but romance witout intimacy because I didn't like it.

    >Christ-san< December 12, 2024 3:39 am
    Yes could have been more than 20+ if I did not find bL Because I never really had the urge of anything or do it unlike this generation where literally kids under 18 have already started even losing their virgin... Jasper ◕`ε´◕ 

    Honestly I believe it, I'm sure there's a country(ies) with a lot of people that's clueless about things like that and obsessed with being 'pure'. Still not a good thing imo tho no offence. Also I'm kind of confused now, you mentioned before on your previous reply that you didn't know about cum nor did you know about masturbation. But then in this reply you said you knew about it but just never had the urge to do it. Kind of inconsistent but I might be misunderstanding something. Also, just so you know, I'm not here to argue about the opinion of whether being experienced in sex is good or bad or how virgins are considered 'pure' and innocent and a good person. Cause that's like what you were taught growing up and decided to stick to it so whatever. But the literal purpose of my main comment is how creepy the whole jerking off scene is for me. I find the choice of words and the scene itself icky as fuck because of how it was written. I don't like the whole "clueless about sex" trope where someone teaches them about it through actual live demonstration because it's fucking creepy. Imo you can indeed be clueless about sex no matter what your age is. It fucking happens! What I don't like about it is that the people in "clueless about sex" tropes are taught how its done through live demonstrations. Like in this manga, where the uke absolutely had no clue what even masturbation was and the seme proceeded to help him by doing it for him for some reason. It's a manga, I know, I've been reading it for more than 5 years but it's still creepy af for me cause of how it was made. Its written like that to be entertaining I'm sure but it doesn't really help with the fact that it's creepy. I mean, imagine if you never really found out about what masturbation is through bl, and then you got drugged accidentally, and your servant who was the one who drugged you tells you to make your election go down by masturbating. But you don't know how, so he proceeds to jerk you off himself. That's fucked up if you think about it clearly. It's reallllyyyy weird.