Just why?

Kek October 28, 2024 3:40 am

Everything was going really well until the rape. There are thousands of ways to create tension and conflict between the ML and the FL, so why must these authors always resort to rape as a plot point? Not only is it poor story telling, it literally makes me feel so disgusted towards the ML and fear for the FL. A man or woman who turns to sexual violence when they are 'under stress' is not pitiful, nor attractive, and certainly not forgivable. Never mind that there was not even a proper apology!

The comment below who says they are not defending rape and then literally defends it by framing it as a 'sudden change in dynamic' that people should get over is the reason why this is a problem in media. The normalisation and even romanticisation of these types of rape in relationships is disgusting and harmful and truly makes me feel sick to the stomach. I hope people who read this manga don't think that this type of relationship is romantic or beautiful. If someone does this to you in real life, get the hell away from them.

Responses
    JaysAndJakeSupremacy October 28, 2024 5:42 pm

    Dont take my words and put it on your mouth. I said 1 word and you assumed 10. Your critical thinking really shined through. The point i was making was the fact that there are so many other stories that was built way worse than this. Never did i ever literally DEFENDED this story. Is it not true that the rape is a plot point which also equates to a sudden change in dynamic? Its just a literary way to say something similar like this "if yall cant even handle a story that suddenly glorified rape..." Theres no hidden meaning behind it.

    You dont have to put on a bravado of being the most morale human being on this website. Not when thats how you generalized literally everything that i said, painting me as the people who normalized and romanticized rape. Thank you.

    Kek October 28, 2024 7:52 pm

    Thanks for complimenting my critical thinking!

    Whether you intended to or not, your language comes off to others as defending rape. Your original comment saying it's just a 'slight change in dynamic' is using language that minimises the act. How can you take rape, something that is so emotionally traumatic and deeply gross and think it's okay that the author uses it as a mere plot device? You are also downplaying rape in your response to me. Saying that 'other stories are built worse', you're once again downplaying rape as just another plot device that's being used all the time again. Does it make it okay if its used in other stories all the time? No!

    You imply that me, and others are overreacting by suggesting rape is unnecessary and bad? How is pointing this out having bravado about being moral? Instead of shifting blame and claiming generalised, reflect on your own statements and view on rape. Thank you!

    JaysAndJakeSupremacy October 29, 2024 3:39 am
    Thanks for complimenting my critical thinking! Whether you intended to or not, your language comes off to others as defending rape. Your original comment saying it's just a 'slight change in dynamic' is using l... Kek

    I may have used the wrong expression by saying 'slight' as i did not take my time through when commenting that. Therefore, i apologize for that statement but never have i ever said that using rape as a plot point as okay. Once again you're taking my words into your own mouth. Im saying how other stories are way worse because its true. I invite you to read my previous comments on other stories, find me what I said that could ever point out to me thinking that rape is fine. You'll find me being hella against it (for eg; sadistic beauty bl side story, jinx and etc). But its also true that people did get way too sensitive and overreacted to this story, which makes me wonder how they would handle or even survive being OUT there. Then again, its my harmless curiousity since I've had my fair share of worse stories ever, built for porn and rape, etc. You can say, i got tired of all those bullshits but seeing people overly triggered in this story particularly makes me think they havent seen the worse. And thats all there is to it. Still doesnt make me a rape defender or whatevs u thought i am. You havent walked a mile in my shoe, how about you reflect on that first? Your welcome.

    feitanportor October 29, 2024 9:46 am
    I may have used the wrong expression by saying 'slight' as i did not take my time through when commenting that. Therefore, i apologize for that statement but never have i ever said that using rape as a plot poi... JaysAndJakeSupremacy

    You are still missing the point. No rape is worse than another. People who suffer trauma related to SA will be triggered regardless of how “little” or “not bad” you think this display of rape is. ALL rape is worse. The reaction to the inclusion of rape is completely valid regardless of whether you think this tape isn’t as bad as others. Rape is Rape.

    feitanportor October 29, 2024 9:47 am
    I may have used the wrong expression by saying 'slight' as i did not take my time through when commenting that. Therefore, i apologize for that statement but never have i ever said that using rape as a plot poi... JaysAndJakeSupremacy

    You are still missing the point. No rape is worse than another. People who suffer trauma related to SA will be triggered regardless of how “little” or “not bad” you think this display of rape is. ALL rape is worse. The reaction to the inclusion of rape is completely valid regardless of whether you think this rape isn’t as bad as others. Rape is Rape.

    JaysAndJakeSupremacy October 29, 2024 10:32 am
    You are still missing the point. No rape is worse than another. People who suffer trauma related to SA will be triggered regardless of how “little” or “not bad” you think this display of rape is. ALL ra... feitanportor

    I didn't say this rape is better than the other. I said, other story was built worser than this. Worser in terms of build up, characters, settings and of course, even more extreme traumatizing scenarios. Just because i said other stories are worser doesnt mean that rape in this story can be dismissed. You're just another person putting my words into your own sentences.

    mysugardaddyissatan November 4, 2024 8:57 am

    I read that rape isn't about the desire, it's about dominance and violence. Rape in romance media is so romanticized that you think that'll it's a form of "love", when all it was is abuse.