Ugh

SJ02 October 24, 2024 1:52 pm

I liked this story, I can’t believe it turned into typical Yaoi with fetishization of what would normally be considered SA. I’m glad I stopped reading a while ago

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    Shirousagi October 24, 2024 2:09 pm

    It really didn't? Shin's personality makes him embarrassed to express his real feelings and reserved but he's shown time and time again that he doesn't actually mind the way Wolfgang pushes him and that he's more than capable of setting hard boundaries if he needs to

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 2:23 pm
    It really didn't? Shin's personality makes him embarrassed to express his real feelings and reserved but he's shown time and time again that he doesn't actually mind the way Wolfgang pushes him and that he's ... Shirousagi

    Tell me, do they have a safe word? Or did they discuss beforehand that this kind of thing is okay in the future and such? If yes, tell me the chapter please, then I will agree with you and take my words back, if no then it’s SA no matter how u wanna put it. This kind of excuse is used for a lot of Yaoi, it seems connected to gender roles as well and the trope in which women also have to be shy and unwilling on the outside but they actually “really want it”. Sorry, not how that works. Unless explicitly specified in the relationship beforehand, words like “stop”, “I can’t” and “no more” etc. mean NO. Sorry that’s not consent. “He’s just embarrassed”, “He can’t express himself”, “He actually likes it”, that kind of excuses have been used times and times again, both in fiction and real life. But it doesn’t surprise me that people on this website and Yaoi enjoyers defend this kind of thing. 90% of Yaoi’s have some kind of SA and people love it, so I’m used to r*pe apologists.

    Fujoshimay October 24, 2024 2:38 pm

    Then read the censored one

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 2:42 pm
    Then read the censored one Fujoshimay

    I used to, but if it’s the same story and same characters that ruins them for me anyways. Since that’s their character design, so it isn’t really a matter of censored or not censored story. I knew this comment would get dislikes and disagreements cause I’m painfully aware of how Yaoi fans are, I just left it to express my opinion and for people who may want to read the story but wanna know if it’s safe. Since I know quite a few who also been burned and check comments beforehand to make sure it doesn’t have this kind of things

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 2:44 pm
    Then read the censored one Fujoshimay

    burnt*

    blueninja89 October 24, 2024 3:01 pm

    Don’t expect anything else from this audience. I’ve been reading yaoi/BL for nearly two decades and while there are some gems I’ve learned that this genre despite it being written by women for women is just about finding that piece of gold among shit. And you’ll shift through a lot of shit. I will never understand but hey I’m a gay man so what do I know, stories written “about me” don’t deserve actual consideration, not like that’s new.

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 3:18 pm
    Don’t expect anything else from this audience. I’ve been reading yaoi/BL for nearly two decades and while there are some gems I’ve learned that this genre despite it being written by women for women is ju... blueninja89

    I’m a queer woman, and I’m actually aroace, but I enjoy sexual conent and with men it’s easier cause of lack of misogyny, sexualization of women and sexist gender roles that are usually in other stuff, overall toxic portrayal of women in sexual media. But I’ve also been reading BL for years and noticed that misogyny and gender roles do exist in here, but they are enforced onto gay men. This is an equivalent of lesbian porn for straight men, just for straight women.
    And I 100% agree with you on that, it’s about finding a diamond among garbage, very rare and hard to find. Rn, I ask in comments before I even start reading anything because both me and my friends have been burnt too many times. This one though, was one of my first ones, I had such fond memories of it so it was very disappointing.
    I’m also very sorry you have to put up with that as a gay man. I really can’t stand women who fetishize gay guys, but in recent years it’s like a trend. I can’t stand it.

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 3:19 pm
    Don’t expect anything else from this audience. I’ve been reading yaoi/BL for nearly two decades and while there are some gems I’ve learned that this genre despite it being written by women for women is ju... blueninja89

    Do you maybe have any recommendations with nice art style that are actually healthy stories? Since we seem to have similar mindset, I would trust your choices. Doesnt have to be sexual. Same if you maybe know any GL stories worth reading

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 3:25 pm
    Don’t expect anything else from this audience. I’ve been reading yaoi/BL for nearly two decades and while there are some gems I’ve learned that this genre despite it being written by women for women is ju... blueninja89

    Also, just saw your question on your profile why do people enjoy that. The answers are… appalling to say the least. Some people really shouldn’t have access to the internet

    SmuttyE October 24, 2024 3:43 pm

    yeah because having multiple rounds of sex with your boyfriend is SA lol. yall will look over actual SA and call freaky multiple orgasm scene SA

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 4:06 pm
    yeah because having multiple rounds of sex with your boyfriend is SA lol. yall will look over actual SA and call freaky multiple orgasm scene SA SmuttyE

    Yeah, cause “stop”, “no more”, “I can’t” is consent lol Also, if someone would look over actual SA is people who defend scenes like that. Don’t project

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 4:09 pm
    yeah because having multiple rounds of sex with your boyfriend is SA lol. yall will look over actual SA and call freaky multiple orgasm scene SA SmuttyE

    I’m all for freaky stuff as long as it’s consensual, that usually means safe word. If you gonna have more than vanilla sex then it has to be properly communicated, otherwise it’s just abuse no matter how u wanna sell it. And it’s really not that hard to mention once in the story that safe word exists, magically even the most insane shit becomes consensual then. It’s not hard dude

    Merenda October 24, 2024 4:42 pm
    I’m all for freaky stuff as long as it’s consensual, that usually means safe word. If you gonna have more than vanilla sex then it has to be properly communicated, otherwise it’s just abuse no matter how ... SJ02

    So bad (and sad) that people can't differentiate erotica with reality. Even adult ones. Oh yes there are a lot of men with 30cm dicks out there. Also it is so common for most men to ejaculate more than once (max twice). Please before preaching go out to the real world.

    Merenda October 24, 2024 4:43 pm
    I’m all for freaky stuff as long as it’s consensual, that usually means safe word. If you gonna have more than vanilla sex then it has to be properly communicated, otherwise it’s just abuse no matter how ... SJ02

    So bad (and sad) that people can't differentiate erotica with reality. Even adult ones. Oh yes there are a lot of men with 30cm ds out there. Also it is so common for most men to ejaculate more than once (max twice). Please before preaching go out to the real world.

    blueninja89 October 24, 2024 4:43 pm
    Do you maybe have any recommendations with nice art style that are actually healthy stories? Since we seem to have similar mindset, I would trust your choices. Doesnt have to be sexual. Same if you maybe know a... SJ02

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    SmuttyE October 24, 2024 4:45 pm
    I’m all for freaky stuff as long as it’s consensual, that usually means safe word. If you gonna have more than vanilla sex then it has to be properly communicated, otherwise it’s just abuse no matter how ... SJ02

    get your head out of your ass for a minute and know that having a safe word isnt universal. and if you had read the story fr, you'd know shin isn't a character who'd tolerate anything he doesnt like. if it was non-con, he'd say it. sometimes, negative notions comes out as a reflex of overstimulation and not because they arent enjoying it or feeling forced. and most importantly, dont like, dont read, dont comment shit that is irrelevant

    SJ02 October 24, 2024 4:50 pm
    So bad (and sad) that people can't differentiate erotica with reality. Even adult ones. Oh yes there are a lot of men with 30cm dicks out there. Also it is so common for most men to ejaculate more than once (ma... Merenda

    What are you even on about? Yeah, I know this is fiction, but my moral compass for fiction is pretty much the same as in reality. If u enjoy non-con, go for it lol I have different standards

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    SJ02 October 24, 2024 4:59 pm
    get your head out of your ass for a minute and know that having a safe word isnt universal. and if you had read the story fr, you'd know shin isn't a character who'd tolerate anything he doesnt like. if it was ... SmuttyE

    Lmao I knew you would get aggressive fast, didn’t expect anything more from someone who reads shit like Jinx. I also know what Shin is like, but authors intention don’t matter that much to me. It also matters to me how things come out, and are portrayed, because in case you didn’t know media influences how people view things and act in real life too. Also, safe word isn’t always necessary, but these things should be talked about beforehand. I just mentioned explicit communication about whether they are okay with this or not. And I also said, I will take my words back if u can direct me to the chapter where they actually talk about this. Because if you know anything about SA you should also know how harmful it is to say stuff like “He secretly wanted it”, “If he didn’t like it he would’ve said so”, “He was just embarrassed, but he actually enjoyed it”, that’s like 101 excuses that people use in these situations. It’s not about Shin himself, for me it’s about how the whole scene is portrayed.
    Also, I already mentioned I’m gonna stop reading it lol But I still have a right to comment my final thoughts on it. And it’s not irrelevant lol Many people check comments before reading smth and believe it or not many people don’t like this kind of sudden nonsense. People are allowed to express their opinions and if u have an issue with that then don’t use internet

    SmuttyE October 24, 2024 5:00 pm
    What are you even on about? Yeah, I know this is fiction, but my moral compass for fiction is pretty much the same as in reality. If u enjoy non-con, go for it lol I have different standards SJ02

    this is where i draw the line because who tf compares fiction with reality????? in reality it's not even possible to ejaculate that much so your moral compass is faulty from the start. learn to differentiate fiction and reality first