im sorry i read the latest chapter without really using my brain rn, what does suicide by ...

It means where the dead didn't actually mean to die, but did something so risky that it resulted in death. But I thought she actually meant it. Which page was it?

Ah no it's murder by oblique intent. The trash media people didn't want her to die. But their action forced her. So indirectly they are responsible for her death.

oh thank you!

That's basically correct but it's more nuanced than that.


Here's a longer but simple explanation:

Most crimes require proof of both the guilty act and the guilty mind. Guilty act is the crime. Guilty mind means intent or foreseeing the consequences of the act. There are different ways to ascertain the guilty mind but let's just talk about direct and oblique intent.

Direct intent is like an equal sign. For example, if you shoot someone in the head (guilty act), knowing that person would die if shot (guilty mind), then you are guilty of murder. You wanted the results of the act.

Oblique intent is indirect, meaning that the consequences of the act is not the intention. But there's more to it. In oblique intent, the person could foresee a natural consequence of an act, even if it is not their intention, and still did it.

(Natural consequence is an arrow. For example, eating. When we eat and drink, our intent is to be full or to not be thirsty. A natural consequence would be to eventually go to the bathroom.)

A classic example of oblique intent is if you blow up a plane to claim insurance, even if it was NOT your intention to kill people, then you would still be guilty, because you knew it would result in their deaths with virtual certainty. (Side note: this is different from recklessness and negligence)

So in the manhwa, the professor asks:

If the actress died, would the reporters be guilty of murder by oblique intent? Is her death a natural consequence of exposing her past?

And Yeong Guk asks himself: Would he be guilty? Is her death a natural consequence of giving advice? Knowing that she would attempt suicide (and even die), would he still do it?

omg thank you so muchhh this made me realize that im really not built for law school LMAO (yes im in med)