yes
no
Yes
Jaekyung pays Kim Dan if he's willing to sell his body for money and he agreed so... no, it's not rape. It has consent from both party but doesn't mean Kim Dan enjoying it so that's why people sees it as rape.
It’s not just that he’s not enjoying it (though that is part of it), people consent to sex that ends up being not enjoyable all the time—see the orgasm gap between men and women. It’s that he actively expresses non-consent AKA “no, stop, wait” etc throughout his and Jaekyung’s interactions.
No
Nope
You're justtifying rape.He feels like he is forced to have sex wth Jaekyung so it's rape. He doesn't always like it or want to do it
Enjoyable or not is not the question and has nothing to do with consent/non consent.
The "no, stop, wait" is a classic quote from ukes, be it toxic seme or lovable seme
"You're justifying blablabla" dude... just.... can you enjoy the manhua and stop asking stupid questions and explain the evidence we don't care
Obviously you do
“just explain the evidence”
>explains the evidence several times, thoroughly
“that’s not real evidence”
i literally said in the message you responded to that it’s not JUST that he doesn’t enjoy it, it’s both that he doesn’t enjoy it AND he doesn’t want it. the reason why i still factor enjoyment in is because there’s obviously a range of non-enjoyment of sex/a range of reasons why someone might not enjoy sex. your partner doing something that just isn’t sexually stimulating to you, for example, is very different from your partner actively hurting you (without your consent).
anyway yeah i’m not dumb and unfamiliar with yaoi like you try to claim i and many others are, i know that “no” often means “yes” in yaoi. it’s the same in a lot of media. i have complex thoughts about it but either way i think it’s worth considering the context of what’s going on around the objections. first of all there are such things like rape fantasies. but they’re still called RAPE fantasies, so some kind of rape is happening, real or imagined (in the context of the story, not real life, before you say some “you think this is real” shit). so if you’re acknowledging there’s elements of basic nonconsent here then you have to at say that there’s at least a nonconsensual fantasy happening here. secondly, rape/ravishment fantasies often involve the person being raped/ravished enjoying it in some way? not just physically but also emotionally? i don’t really see that happening…ever. at least not so far. but then i’m also like, idk what is fantastical or appealing about jaekyung treating dan like he’s a worthless piece of shit under his shoes even outside of their sex so like
Not reading. We don't care it's fiction. Now shut up ^-^
all of the people reading this and actually enjoying it are children, girl is probably 14
I guess you actually mean : ppl who can't dissociate fiction and reality and feel assaulted by imagination's of an author put into paper are children.
“just explain the evidence”
>explains the evidence several times, thoroughly
“that’s not real evidence”
>discusses why the evidence is evidence/what the evidence means, acknowledging and exploring the nuance added by a common fictional trope and how it actually maps out onto the webtoon in question
“not reading, it’s just fiction”
okay buddy well. some of us like to actually engage with and think about what we’re reading.
are you mad because i called you out?
i know its fiction
discusting fiction
its not even deep or psychological just gross
"Mad" did I sound angry? :// I found inconsistency in your comment so I corrected it, that's all ;)) yw. I suggest you let the author finish her work to judge, you don't enter a half-painted room and say "it's horrible" lmao
does this have rape :)?