Fr like yeah Vercion is not a good person but Sunwon is not great either given he's tricking everyone by claiming to be a deity and twisting the teachings by saying how he’ll purify them through sex.
He corrupts his religion by adding sex which is never good
This is exactly why I hate both the mc and vercion.
I never understand how people like the mc when he likes to sexually harrass people.
╮(￣▽￣)╭ but- but the mc isn't RAPING anybody? he's not pinning them down or whatnot and thrusting into them without even an inch of preparation in a locked room with no escape tunnel like Vercion?
Like, we ALL know, I think, that MC is no saint. But dubcon (those people were not chained down, they could've left anytime, they didn't really 'suffer' afterwards) and noncon (where tf could he have escaped to, he was straight up traumatizided, pls) are two different things and just because MC is not an innocent kid, doesn't mean we can't hate Vercion for being a straight-up asshole who even justifies the shit he does through his own twisted, perverted beliefs and whatever traumata he's suffered from in the past.
i'm at chap 65 currently so I'm not sure if anything worse happens after that justifies tossing MC and Vercion into the same pot, so for me atm yes, MC is morally very grey-ish but Vercion is just straight up a lunatic.
I agree... the mc cannot be satisfied with 1 penis lol he seduces and if he wanted it to stop he would have when he "was thinking about it" that one time
SAY IT LOUDERRRR
Coercing people into sleeping with you IS rape. I hope you know that. Presenting sex as something else with the intention of deceiving people into sleeping with you IS rape. Rape is not just holding someone down and forcing them to take it. There are different shades to it and saying that because nobody is kicking and screaming it isnt rape is weird and dismissive as hell. Get out of my face with that.
Also dubcon falls under noncon.
I couldn't agree more lmao Acting like telling them it's worship is the same as rape. He literally hasn't really forced anyone. Yes in real life lying to someone to that extent to get sex is legally considered rape. You know why? Because if the person wouldn't have slept with them without the lie, it's considered consent by a lie. However the people he's slept with seem to want to sleep with him. I don't think giving them a reason that it's okay is the same as rape, and I can't get over whatever brain rot someone has to have to act like it is. This is fiction. No one is being harmed even in the story. MC is just a ho lol
He hasn't forced anyone to fuck him, he just told them that it is a form of worship for him. They WANT to have sex with him, he gave them a reason. Pretending to be a good creates a vast power dynamic this is true, but that dynamic doesn't seem to be the drive behind anyone having sex with him. I mean, Vercy is... Yeah let's just say Sunwon created his own problem. Legally is it coercion? Definitely. Morally is it wrong? Of course, they think he's a god. Does that make it okay to rape Sunwon? Obviously not. So I feel like you're complaining about the wrong thing, which is people hating a violent rapist and comparing it to questionable consent (as they think he's a god). Sunwon is no saint, but why are people even reading if they're complaining about the biggest plot point in this comic, which is MC pretending to be a god and getting fucked. Of course people are going to complain about the violent rapist and not the one getting the bad side of that. Ironically the only one that wouldn't have slept with him is probably Vercy, the one who then raped him. This is messy... I'm sorry for the novel lol
Too long didn't read version: I don't think it's a double standard whatsoever to complain about a violent rapist character and not constantly complain about the MC doing MC things, which while also questionable he's not only also suffered more than those he's slept with have, he has EVERYTHING to lose if he stops now. Lol
You guys need to actually be put on a watchlist if you don't believe coercion/lying to people to get into their pants isn't rape. Like what is wrong with you? It doesnt matter if they wanted to sleep with him or not because they couldnt consent to actually doing that with him without him literally lying to make it happen. The MC is a rapist and you're a fucking weirdo for insisting he isnt.
i agree, this is coming across as a slut shaming of MC, which is what’s causing a lot of his communication issues (even came up when Vercion raped him)
Mind you, there's no issue with him being comfortable in his sexuality and loving sex. Good for him. The issue is instead of him just being like "Hey, this is sex and theres nothing wrong with it" he lied about it being a worship practice because he knew they'd be appalled by it and wouldnt actually do it if they knew it wasn't based in worship. Which is manipulation and coercion especially when he is in a position of power as someone who is said to be god. Ridiculous.
I have to acknowledge the wild double standards when it comes to this BL. Alot of people are very up in arms with animosity towards Vercion because he raped the MC and rightfully so! Though, you guys often forget that the MC is also not at all a saint. He coerced all the people around him into having sex with him through lies and taking an advantage of their religious beliefs. He knows hes a scumbag but I'm not sure you guys know which is concerning. While Vercion outright nonconned the MC the MC is dubconning everyone. But then again, who cares? Its fiction. Just tiring of seeing Vercion only getting flack for being a rapist when the MC is too.