Kinda ship the red hair guard with the twin sister.. They give a good vibes of : You're en...

They actually seem to somewhat end up together, but personally I hate it. She doesn’t deserve a happy ending and she barely pays any consequences for her actions

That’s so interesting bc I don’t like it either but because of him instead. He has made it very clear where his loyalty lies and it’s not with Erica and she should get with someone who doesn’t see her twin sister in her and is completely loyal to her like with the MC and the ML

I don’t think he sees her twin sister in her at all, I think she’s the one obsessed with it. He makes it pretty clear that he sees them as very different individuals

My issue with him is mostly the fact that he’s loyal to her sister and therefore can never truly be on her side. Aside from that does he? The only times he shows up is when he has something to report so idk about if he does

Can you blame him? It’s literally his job to look after her, for good reasons too. Why would he be loyal to her, what did she do to deserve it? It’s not like her behavior is tolerable, let alone likable or worthy to fall in love with. If anyone deserves better here, at this moment rn, it’s him

As for the last sentence, what does that have to do with him seeing them as different individuals? It is a fact that she’s the one obsessed with her sister, and he doesn’t see them confuse them at all. He sees her as completely different person, though rn probably not a very good one

Well I don’t blame him it just that due to the fact that he’s is actively working for the sister he would not be a good match for her at all. And I wouldn’t say she obsessed with her sister but rather her “role” and again I would need textural evidence to support that but yeah I think she would need someone better and not just a person who says dumb shit though a door about things he doesn’t understand

How is she not obsessed with her sister when she literally pretends to be her and tries to steal away everything she owns, including her lovers? This isn’t about just her role in the house, if she goes after her relationships too. I do know what later context with her is, but it doesn’t justify the shit she’s done. If anyone here deserves better, it’s him and not her. And if she deserves someone better it’s parental figures, who are to blame for all of this in the first place, not a boyfriend. He’s too good for her, sorry not sorry. And saying she’s not obsessed with her sister is a wild take.

I mean because she’s not obsessed with her sister right she’s obsessed with the role. Her sister took from her. She wants her sister‘s relationships because they should’ve been her relationships. If someone else took the role from her she would be obsessed with them, but not because it’s them it’s because they are doing the role. I understand the confusion because it does look like she’s obsessed with her sister but ultimately, it’s all about the role, which is why she refers to acting so much. She they both do deserve better, parental figures however it’s not the parents fault they died so ehh. I feel like the way she’s acting is never justified and that’s best the way she understand that she is playing out the role of villain like she understand she’s the villain, but she thinks she needs to be a villain in order to secure her freedom. However, the whole purpose of this conversation is the relationship but her guard and ultimately I don’t think it’s a good relationship. I don’t because Like I mentioned, his primary goal will be the safety of his brother which will always rest in the hands of his employer. Ironically, I think the sister needs someone a bit more like the ML because she needs someone who’s more stable to match her emotional vibrancy And someone who is clearly willing to put in the extra work and the guard would be a good option if he wasn’t getting paid to watch her. To me, I think that makes the entire situation gross because he literally reports on her every act, so she can’t trust him no matter what he says. About him being too good for her I mean, maybe but like he is introduced as a rat with a heart of gold so I guess but I think the topic of them being incompatible due to their positions and roles is more interesting than “so-and-so is too good for so-and-so”

I’m sorry, but saying FL’s relationships would be hers if she got that role is just delusional bullshit. Love isn’t smth you get through your position, it’s a special emotion between individuals that cannot be replaced by someone else. She didn’t get them through her “role” like you claim and the sister wouldn’t have them just because she could be the head of the house. I’m sorry honey, but that’s not how love works. Like what are you on about? Especially her relationship with the ML. It’s not a confusion that she’s obsessed with her sister, SHE IS OBSESSED WITH HER. Not her role, but her entire life. And it’s gross her reports her every act? You mean her acts that literally try to harm/get rid of her sister? It’s gross she commits them, not that he reports them. I understand she’s also a victim, but most villains were victims at some point. That doesn’t justify their actions. FL loved her sister more than anything in the world before, idk what she went through, the things she did in return are disgusting and I dont think she deserves a happy ending, let alone love, with no consequences whatsoever. You can defend her all you want, but my opinion won’t change. So let’s just say, agree to hard disagree.

Idc* what she went through

Explicit get something right I didn’t say she would definitely have the relationship of her sister if she was in her room that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying she’s obsessed with the role and she believes the relationship is due to the role why she wants to take it away from her sister because she sees it as not belonging to the sister, but the role itself as the sister the role. It’s all comes back to the idea that it doesn’t belong to either sister as it belongs to the role itself. Which I don’t believe in 100%, but that’s the mentality she’s using. She’s obsessed with THE ROLE of the life she could have lived. That obsession drove her insane. It’s OK if you’re not pathetic with the plight of the victim, I mean whatever right but we don’t know about the consequences as it hasn’t happened yet. I clearly think she deserves love because ultimately affected her more than anything else was how lonely she was. They both had each other yet was incredibly lonely all the same. it is gross to happen being in a relationship together because she can’t trust him due to his position of power over her and the fact that he watches her every move. That would make their relationship gross. She tries to get her freedom back like you think she should’ve just sat there and died like huh I know a lot of people aren’t sympathetic to women in situations like this, but the amount I see at her is so crazy, but let’s agree to disagree

1. Consequences in the raws of this story (it’s finished already within the raws) didn’t seem appropriate.
2. She had her freedom before she tried to fuck her sister over. She was the most important person to her before that, let’s not forget that. Not everything is her fault, but she did a lot of it to herself.
3. I can sympathize with her situation, but I will never let that justify her behavior. Most villains were victims before, that doesn’t change that their actions are disgusting.
4. What does this have to do with her being a woman? “Women in situations like this”? Lol how does her gender matter here? People wouldn’t like this kind of behavior regardless of the person doing it. It’s messed up, period. Listen, I can see why you like her, a lot of people like villains or sympathize with them. For me it’s rare to like one, because even if I pity them, I don’t think their issues justify them hurting innocent people, especially those who tried their best for them. Do I think everything is her fault? No, I don’t. But I definitely think she should’ve went a better way about it.

Yes. Let’s agree to disagree.

1. Ok fair
2. She has been stuck in her room for most of the time. It doesn’t matter if she was important to her sister she was essentially imprisoned and the only way out was through.
3. I get what you are saying but at the same time it’s pointless. Like what else was she supposed to do? The only other way would be to continually let herself get victimized and then die.
4. Well a lot. Women in stories like these tend to get over punished for anything. So her gender matters a lot. I understand that you root for the hero but they also tend to get their hands dirty but regardless I don’t really see what else she was supposed to do other than run away and die or stay in her room more and die or kill herself like yeah let’s agree to disagree.

1. Thanks
2. How was she stuck tho? Wasn’t she the one pretending to me sick? I don’t remember FL forbidding her to leave (before she started plotting of course).
3. Not at all? Lol, it seems like you keep forgetting that she was her sisters most important person in the past life. You think she wouldn’t want her to be happy? Being families head isn’t the only way to be happy. So, in her past life, please tell me how exactly would she keep being “victimized” and then die?
4. A lot of these stories have as trash men with as harsh consequences. Usually, they are adequate. You’re talking about overpunished when she wasn’t punished at all. Like, she just didn’t get to fuck her sister over and that’s it. No consequences other than that. And again, I don’t see how she was being victimized or controlled in her past life. She attended parties and was social too. She was allowed to leave peacefully in current life even after all shit she pulled, so why wouldn’t she in her past when she actually had people caring about her? It doesn’t make sense

2. She was stuck because she couldn’t playing the role. Obviously, she’s not mentally well right I don’t think either of the sisters really are but she’s obviously the most unstable. So the only way out is by destroying the role or seeing it to natural ending. I feel like you are trying to see this logically when the girls are working with especially her years of pent up emotions especially resentment, envy, and jealousy hence her actions. She just can’t walk out and say everything better now because then you get the other sister and workers being like so you were just lying this entire time and then, if her sister isn’t mentally well, it can send her right back to the same place she started, which was extreme suicidal tendencies, which it would’ve if not for the ML. So it’s more complicated then just walk out.
3. The sisters simply cannot just switch back-and-forth otherwise there would not have been a story. Or it would be a very different one. Say she told her sister she wanted to be the family head and they switch places again I would argue essentially the same thing will happen maybe a bit happier, however, due to the fact that the new family had wouldn’t forget the switch that the other sister made but Who to say that she wouldn’t simply last night. It was always meant to be this way appearing to the other sister like she forgot the switch because the entire plot is dictated on the fact that one of the sisters forgot the switch. The sister who is imprisoned now wants to be the family head and that’s the only ending she wants or death. You’re right that both of them doesn’t need to be the family had hence why the ending for this one is one of the sisters not being the family head anymore but the sister who wants it wants it badly. There isn’t any other option for her.
4. Yes, that’s true for men. They normally get harsh consequences for harsh actions. However what I’m talking about is women shooting a dirty glaze and then them getting slaughtered for it in brutal ways sometimes even SA. Personally, in this instance, I’m fine with her not being punished because I view this all as more of a mental health crisis than anything because she is obviously not well. Even though she was able to be social, they show that she’s not able to do it in the same way as her sister and that wow most women wear a mask while out in public she had to wear like three of them. Like I feel like you’re trying to make it seem like they were completely equal when they go out of their way to show that she had the least power in the situation hence the drastic actions she takes. Even now currently she is free but she has someone constantly watching over her shoulder and she can’t leave with him. She can’t talk to anyone without it going back to her sister. She can’t stop taking her medicine without it going back to her sister. She can’t not eat without it going back to her sister. She’s essentially in a conservatorship. That is not freedom. You keep being up the fact that in the past her sister actually cared about her but like her actions did not show that. If her sister felt like her sister’s actions showed care she wouldn’t have done the things she did. The issue is the miscommunication of the sisters as if sister who is imprisoned feels imprisoned and the actions of the sister who the family head doesn’t feeling loving to the imprisoned sister then it’s like she didn’t do anything. It’s genuinely confusing but it essentially boils down to, the message can be sent as many times as the sender wants if it’s not being received, it’s like the sender didn’t send anything to begin with.

Yeah, I just can’t agree with you. Our core arguments just differ, in your opinion she’s been forced to do this and in my opinion she chose to do this. That’s the problem. I guess in the end we just have to agree to disagree

Honestly that’s fair

I appreciate the respectful discussion. It’s not that often that people can hold a disagreement without throwing insults