i haven't read the novel but apparently the manhwa changed up a lot things from the novel so i'm hoping they'll change it even more so the consequences for lise and cliff are severe
Didnt they technically get their comeuppance by mutual torture by the years? I dont like how cliff became a duke too but i like how their relationship broke down
I heard that, but it’s still not official consequences. It’s just them breaking up I a messy way, not nearly close to the price of their crimes. And also, how can such a blind, unreasonable and moronic psychopath be a DUKE? I hoped that after all is revealed Killain will at least try to fight him for the position of the duke. Also, duke and duchess haven’t really paid for anything either. There’s barely a proper apology
PLEASE. Letting them go isn’t being nice, it’s stupid and irresponsible. I honestly have no idea why would they make such a soft FL. It’s to the point of being absurd
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think duchess is evil but she’s definitely an enabler. Not only towards Edith, but also Killian with his fathers neglect.
Oh I HOPE that's true I couldn't believe that jackass Cliff was going to be the duke
Me too! Even if they drive themselves to ruin, after he divorces Lise he probably will be fine. He doesn’t deserve it, he was as bad as her
Kinda, but don't forget that their actions were restrained by the author's power (like with the family jewelry that was given to blondie instead of Edith, duchess herself questioned why she did that when she usually wouldn't make such a mistake).
I mean I guess, but do u think it was to the same extent with Killian’s childhood? The neglect towards him? Also, even after the third condition was lifted, they definitely did not act towards her like towards someone who tried to frame/kill their daughter in law (duke may not care bout her, but duchess seemed to). However, I also don’t love the female lead. I just finished the novel and I think she was also an enabler with that constant “merciful forgiveness and saving” towards her. She was lucky that royal family didn’t let Lise completely off, but what if they would have like she asked?
Personal forgiveness is one thing, not receiving any consequences for crimes is another. Same with Clif, he killed many people just cause Lise asked him to, yet he gets to stay as a duke? Nonsense.
No, no, i 100% agree with you. Thats one part i was really pissed off about the novel. They chalked everything up to the author’s authority and the characters themselves didnt really repent from what they did to edith and killian, the least they did is ignore lise and throw money at edith as their “apologies” they never said a verbal sorry to them even after all the bs they put the main couple through. I hope HOPE the manhwa makes them grovel.
(not mentioning cliff here bcs hes on a whole nother level of being a pest)
Exactly! But tbh, I think it’s Edith’s fault too. Like the way author made her so “angelic” to the point of her being a bystander and not allowing anyone to pay consequences for their crimes out of “forgiveness”. It’s one think to be nice and another to be kind of irresponsible and foolish. Her not prosecuting them knowing how many people they hurt makes her somewhat guilty too. Lise might’ve gotten some punishment in the end, but Clif? He doesn’t deserve to be the duke at all. Like what is this. That’s why Edith isn’t my favorite
Cliff and lize don't get a happy ending together. Lise especially doesn't get a happy ending. There are side stories of her perspective and she fucks up everything for herself. Cliff does get a happy ending tho.
Yeah, I know, I’ve read. Lise still got off somewhat easy and as you’ve said Clif got a happy ending. I kinda blame FL for that. It’s one thing to forgive someone (I really don’t understand how she even could) and another to dismiss their crimes towards other people out of your “forgiveness”. Let’s be honest, Lise would’ve gotten away with her crimes yet again if the king actually listened to FL. Royal family is the only reason she got any punishment whatsoever. I hate enablers, that isn’t being good or “angelic”, it’s just irresponsible
Yeah I get what you are saying but I think for Lise death would have been too easy and there isn't an assurance her death wouldn't cause a reset. It is also poetic that all the things she was so proud to have were taken from her in an instant. All that 'hard work' only for her to dig her own grave and fuck it up is very fitting. Being a nun meant she had truly had nothing but herself. I think her end is poetic bcz she'll always be tormented mentally. The toll of those 13 lives needed to be paid.
I don’t think her ending was too bad, death would def be too easy, but I feel like rotting in prison would’ve been even better.
I’m currently reading the novel and it seems that neither Clif nor Lise will pay any consequences of their actions whatsoever. Someone please tell me that’s not the case. Also, I get that FL is nice but if she really learns that Lise not only was the author but also someone who played with and murdered 12 other people, and she still lets her go and be the duchess… That’s not nice anymore, that’s batshit insane. Same as letting the psychopath like Clif become the duke. If that’s how the novel ends then I hope at least webtoon will change that cause what the hell. Why do such heinous villains not only get to walk free but also get second to highest power position in the whole kingdom. If FL lets that happen without even thinking about punishing them then honestly, she might as well be called an enabler. Imagine what kind of rulers would they be.