On the topic of this being rape why should there be a double standard? Richard tried to in...

0SilverRevil0 September 24, 2024 6:33 am

On the topic of this being rape why should there be a double standard? Richard tried to insert his penis into her vagina and it did not work. Courtney then forced herself and forced Richard's penis inside of her when he clearly showed hesitation. Any words of no, stop or any sign of hesitation means there is not full consent in this situation. So Courtney forcing his penis inside of her is also rape. Just because he wasn't the one being penetrated doesn't mean it isn't rape. And what he did after when she said no and kept going is also not okay. That's also rape. What I'm trying to reach here is that they're both inexperienced and stubborn and have done bad by each other. I do not think it's right for everyone to start saying the story is ruined because Richard is a rapist. Because them you're being a damn hypocrite. They're both rapist then.

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    zyzell September 24, 2024 3:28 pm

    She literally asked him if he wanted to put it in and he said a big fat crystal clear yes. Have you forgotten that he told her she can do anything to him and he is a mere slave to her desires? She's not a grapist if he gave her permission from the very beginning. But instead of staying true to his word and obeying her wishes, he started satisfying his own fetish without regards to her as his mistress. Basically imposed his strength on her and every grip he had assured her she held over him.

    Riri September 24, 2024 4:59 pm
    She literally asked him if he wanted to put it in and he said a big fat crystal clear yes. Have you forgotten that he told her she can do anything to him and he is a mere slave to her desires? She's not a grapi... zyzell

    They are both inexperienced in bdsm and it’s their first time so they didn’t put boundaries specifically a safe word specially in slave/master play it’s so important to have it they’re both in the wrong him losing him self to pleasure and her for forcing him to put it even tho he hesitate anyway I hope they both learn from it and know how to communicate better

    S-J-M September 24, 2024 6:59 pm

    You're fuckin brain dead He couldn't do it, he wanted to, she did it herself manually. To absolutely anyone with even half a non rotted brain it's clear that was completely consensual and wanted by both parties. You're absolutely mental lmfao Him hurting her and continuing after her saying no stop it hurts is rape. Stop coping by apologizing for rape.

    S-J-M September 24, 2024 7:02 pm
    They are both inexperienced in bdsm and it’s their first time so they didn’t put boundaries specifically a safe word specially in slave/master play it’s so important to have it they’re both in the wrong... Riri

    That wasn't bdsm, dipshit, it was vanilla penis in vagina missionary sex. He literally took all control and continued past her clear "no". Stop gagging on the bdsm aspect like it's a dick, even being inexperienced at bdsm doesn't excuse suddenly not being able to comprehend NO especially with the pretext that he is a SUBMISSIVE to her. This isn't a "bad dog" situation, this was a painful and potentially traumatizing event to a virgin woman who was told he wanted her to have control.

    Riri September 25, 2024 3:17 am

    I don’t think you understood what I mean or maybe I didn’t phrase it in a good way, what he did is definitely rape there’s no doubt in that he’s disgusting for that what I’m saying is they’re both virgins and they both inexperienced at what they’re doing, when he tried to put it in and it won’t fit he pulled back maybe in a better situation (and IM NOT Blaming the victim here or giving him excuses) he would have got down on her or finger her in other word done more forplay. Her being stubborn and forcing him to go in her was wrong of her but it’s DEFINITELY not on the same level as him ofc him continue doing all that! Despite her saying it hurts is so fucked up and as I said at the end I wanna see how he handles it and how she reacts to it cause god I hope she won’t forgive him.
    ps. I was “gagging on the bdsm aspect like it's a dick” cause I didn’t like how the person I was replying to was wording things since they seems to not know much about it

    0SilverRevil0 September 25, 2024 5:00 am
    She literally asked him if he wanted to put it in and he said a big fat crystal clear yes. Have you forgotten that he told her she can do anything to him and he is a mere slave to her desires? She's not a grapi... zyzell

    Wanting to put it in and saying yes is not the damn same as her FORCING THAT SHIT IN WHEN IT HURTS BOTH OF THEM when he was clearly fucking hesitating for both of their safety. No means NO. Stop means NO. HESITATION MEANS NO. FEAR MEANS NO. It does not have to be verbal for you to rescind CONSENT. You can take consent away AT ANY MOMENT. Just because he told her to do whatever the fuck she wanted with him doesn't mean she gets the right to hurt him. BDSM and S&M relationships have RULES, BOUNDARIES AND SAFE WORDS for a damn reason. They are inexperienced so they haven't explored enough to set down those rules and safe word yet. But simply by reading body language you could SEE CRYSTAL CLEAR he was hesitating. HESITATION means there is not full consent. No if or buts. If you're excusing it then you're excusing rape. "She didn't say no or yes. She hesitated but let me do it anyway." If someone said that then that person raped the other. There is no proper full consent in fear or hesitation. I REPEAT you can take consent away ANY TIME. So "She's not a grapist if he gave her permission from the very beginning." Is not a valid excuse. She is a rapist. And Richard is also not a damn fucking saint. They're both rapist. What they both did was wrong. Simple.

    zyzell September 25, 2024 10:38 am
    Wanting to put it in and saying yes is not the damn same as her FORCING THAT SHIT IN WHEN IT HURTS BOTH OF THEM when he was clearly fucking hesitating for both of their safety. No means NO. Stop means NO. HESIT... 0SilverRevil0

    Honey she literally gave him a little urge and then HE PUSHED IT IN HIMSELF. Hesitation doesn't necessarily mean no, it means to find oneself in an ambivalent state and dumbfounded of what to do. Specifically in this case, her action is called taking the initiative, and Initiating is NOT grape. It differs from continuously pounding someone, it differs from forcing someone to do something they don't want, it differs from overlooking their wishes.

    S-J-M September 25, 2024 2:39 pm
    Wanting to put it in and saying yes is not the damn same as her FORCING THAT SHIT IN WHEN IT HURTS BOTH OF THEM when he was clearly fucking hesitating for both of their safety. No means NO. Stop means NO. HESIT... 0SilverRevil0

    You're so stupid and delusional it's fucking hilarious Dumbass rape apologist thinks crying rape at everything is better than admitting a male lead fucked up hahahah