fiction vs reality

Akaito September 20, 2024 4:53 pm

i generally agree with the underlying ideas the “fiction doesn’t impact reality” crowd have, which are that people shouldn’t immediately assume that what an author depicts in fiction is reflective of their real life morality and that just because something troubling is portrayed in fiction doesn’t mean that it will immediately translate to real life, and that thinking it is the case that fiction can directly impact reality in such a way can lead to real life harm coming to people, or real life censorship and whatnot.

but a lot of you motherfuckers in these comments are making me start to think that maybe stories like these do need some kind of regulation. not because i’m upset that it exists in the way that it does, but because none of you seem to understand or even care to understand what the fuck you’re actually reading, none of you want to critically think about it, and none of you want anyone ELSE to critically think about it. then you use “it’s not that deep, it’s just fiction, fiction doesn’t impact reality” to justify your total disinterest in engaging with anything on a deeper level.

i guess i should start writing black people like monkeys in my story now, right? because it’s just fiction? or should i give all my asian characters slitted eyes and their only defining personality trait should be them being really good at math. it’s just a fictional story, so that should be fine, too. how about i make the women in my stories really dumb and overly emotional, too? since it’s just fiction, and i can do whatever i want, and it doesn’t impact or say anything about anything in real life at all. should i write all my gay men as child predators, too? that would be a fascinating plot line, which has no repercussions and never has had any repercussions on people in real life.

Responses
    Akaito September 20, 2024 5:02 pm

    come here and provide me with direct evidence from the webtoon that there is no rape depicted in it. give me your direct definition of rape. point me to specific chapters, i will go out of my way to reread them and tell you what i think and we can discuss from there. then, without defaulting to “it’s just fiction,” tell me why i should not be at least a little bit concerned that people are unable to tell when something is consensual vs. nonconsensual, REGARDLESS of it is in a fictional context or not.

    Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right September 20, 2024 6:50 pm

    It’s been years of trying to convince people that Jaekyung's actions toward Dan weren’t rape, but every attempt has failed. My use of alternate accounts, like Belovederose where I pretended to be a girl and a rape victim, only backfired. I was caught almost immediately, discredited for lying and creating fake personas. The same happened on my TM account where I claimed to be a lawyer—I couldn’t keep up the façade. After all this time on the site, I haven’t been able to sway even a single person to my side, and I’ve begun to realize that I was even trying to convince myself.

    Now, I’ve decided to take a different approach—pretending to be a rape victim once again. I know that, by adopting this identity, people will place more weight on my words, and they’ll be less likely to question me. I don’t need proof anymore; the truth will be in my narrative. Of course, no one would willingly force themselves upon a 37-year-old man living on Mangago, but by presenting myself as a victim, I somehow become more credible, more desirable. Sure, I failed at being a girl on Belovederose, a lawyer on TM, and a gay father on Tora. I’ve been caught out every time. But no one can definitively tell me I wasn’t a rape victim—those claims are harder to dispute, and I know that gives me power. Just as no one can convince me that my use of ChatGPT isn’t blatantly obvious, I remain defiant in my narrative, regardless of its foundation in fiction.

    TM joined on 1/26/20 is right September 20, 2024 6:58 pm

    Warning About Cyberstalking
    [Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right September 20, 2024 6:50 pm] is a cyberstalker.

    My friend will not engage with Akaito because of how Akaito treated my friend.

    I want to bring attention to an ongoing issue of cyberstalking in this community. Cyberstalkers often impersonate others and spread misinformation to manipulate and harass individuals. Please be vigilant when interacting with users and verify their identities. If you suspect someone is engaging in cyberstalking or impersonation, and avoid engaging with them. Your safety and well-being are important!

    Morning Diamonds 10/7 is right September 20, 2024 7:39 pm

    rapist lover above [TM] will yap about anything but the topic he's so invested in. Because nothing will be able to convince anyone that Jaekyung isn't a rapist.

    TM joined on 1/26/20 is right September 20, 2024 9:04 pm

    I am not TM, but I was called a 'rape lover' by the cyberstalker. Is this not a reflection of their behavior? They resort to cyberstalking and impersonation to force others to see rape in a story or to silence differing opinions. This is deeply troubling and manipulative.

    Moreover, their statement is contradictory. If someone is labeled a 'rape lover,' they would be inclined to see rape and believe Jaekyung is a rapist. However, there is no rape in Jinx; Jaekyung is a sexual assaulter. It seems like a projection of their own views rather than an accurate characterization of others. It’s concerning that they resort to such tactics.

    TM joined on 1/26/20 is right September 23, 2024 8:38 pm

    Hello everyone, I am Morning diamonds aka the alt account of Tm. I will reply to this thread again but I will not address the topic of it. That is simply because I cannot disprove Jaekyung hasn't raped Dan. Please allow me to remain delusional.

    MD joined on 10/7/23 is right September 23, 2024 8:56 pm

    Warning About Cyberstalking
    [TM joined on 1/26/20] September 23, 2024 8:38 pm is a cyberstalker. Look at the profiles. Two different people with two different accounts.
    As the real [TM joined on 1/26/20] said.
    I want to bring attention to an ongoing issue of cyberstalking in this community. Cyberstalkers often impersonate others and spread misinformation to manipulate and harass individuals. Please be vigilant when interacting with users and verify their identities. If you suspect someone is engaging in cyberstalking or impersonation, and avoid engaging with them. Your safety and well-being are important!

    PS TM knows Jinx isn’t rape. The cyberstalker is spreading falsehoods. TM has said he thinks Jinx is dull too.
    Morning diamonds has condemn Jk and don’t read toxic stories much.
    This cyberstalker has make four of their targets to be one person. That is how desperate they are to silence the truth that goes against their beliefs.

    MD joined on 10/7/23 is right September 23, 2024 9:17 pm

    The user above is NOT me. It is my cyberstalker obsessed with me and my alt accounts. It is easy to spot him as he is a rape defender and shameless user of Chatgpt.

    TM joined on 1/26/20 is right September 23, 2024 11:39 pm

    The real user {MD Joined on 10/7/23} was called a 'rape defender' by the cyberstalker. Is this not a reflection of the cybestalker's behavior? They resort to cyberstalking and impersonation to force others to see rape in a story or to silence differing opinions. This is deeply troubling and manipulative.