I'm on the fence here

mioamato September 19, 2024 3:20 pm

On one hand, I am so thankful that scanlation teams like gourmet supremacy still exist. I really, really am considering all the other top teams have already dissolved itself. And, in this economy that its hard to pay for little wants like paying for manhwa/manga chapters, their work is a godsend.

On another hand, theirs is not a legal, official translation. And yet they put a watermark all over it like we're not all violating some internet crime here already (i.e. going into an illegal website to browse illegally sourced material). The copyright of the material is simply not theirs so while I did go to their website to browse there instead, I am not sure on where the confidence is coming from that its okay to put their watermark all over someone else's work and I don't mean the translation. I know they removed it after a day or so but it still doesn't seem right to me.

In any case, no hate to all scanlation teams. I was just putting my mind out there just in case some people will have a better idea than using a whole ass watermark on the MC's face. I would donate to help out but I don't have extra money since the holidays are coming up. This is in no way to invalidate all your efforts and I hope I didn't sound ungrateful because I really am grateful and thankful to you guys. In the end, I just didn't like the watermark and how you did it.

Responses
    Panda-chan September 19, 2024 4:59 pm

    I completely agree with you. This is an illegal site, for which we use to read this stuff. The stuff they are translating is not theirs. If they are going to watermark it. Put it off to the side. We will know it's your work that did the translation.

    buffetcat September 19, 2024 5:06 pm

    Whoa there Chihuahua yapping so much for something you get for free bruh

    Mahiru September 19, 2024 7:46 pm
    Whoa there Chihuahua yapping so much for something you get for free bruh buffetcat

    Why not? OP is right. This is something that gets brought up and people think about often.

    Illegal readers are grateful for the convenience, but when we look at scan wars fighting over projects or entitlement like this that leads to excessive watermarking over something that's ultimately and legally not theirs, it really feels like the pot calling the kettle black.

    buffetcat September 19, 2024 9:57 pm
    Why not? OP is right. This is something that gets brought up and people think about often.Illegal readers are grateful for the convenience, but when we look at scan wars fighting over projects or entitlement li... Mahiru

    yeah, but case being the watermarks is to get traction the the website the translations are originally hosted in, to get funding to PAY for said website+developer (since the staff are voluntary). If you're wondering WHY Gourmet needs to host independently instead of uploading in other sites, they've already explained it in their FAQ.

    Mahiru September 19, 2024 10:59 pm
    yeah, but case being the watermarks is to get traction the the website the translations are originally hosted in, to get funding to PAY for said website+developer (since the staff are voluntary). If you're wond... buffetcat

    Then they're being pisspoor over resource management when there are plenty of cheaper alternatives. No one cares why they need traffic to their site (we all use adblock anyway).

    But that's besides the point. Even if you give people stuff for free, they're still free to complain about it if they want.

    Most people who do scanlations, do it philanthropically for the benefit of many. But when it gets beyond their time or paygrade then it's normal to stop. Especially since this series has officially licensed releases.

    While the convenience is great, gratitude and morality are two different coins of discussion and you're barking up the wrong tree.

    buffetcat September 20, 2024 9:21 am
    Then they're being pisspoor over resource management when there are plenty of cheaper alternatives. No one cares why they need traffic to their site (we all use adblock anyway).But that's besides the point. Eve... Mahiru

    One is morally obligated to express their gratitude and here is where scans people are not getting enough of due to reposters. I'm not saying you're wrong, but since you too are reading this version in places where the scans group didn't want it to appear, there's no chance we will agree to anything so I think we're done here.

    (if you're wondering why I'm here in the first place, I use this site to look for the groups to follow, peace~)

    Mahiru September 20, 2024 6:30 pm
    One is morally obligated to express their gratitude and here is where scans people are not getting enough of due to reposters. I'm not saying you're wrong, but since you too are reading this version in places w... buffetcat

    I respect your perspective, but you're right, we will never agree. Putting morality and scans in the same sentence is something I'll never agree with because it's absolutely inane.

    Gratitude is never a moral obligation, and putting stolen things out on the internet should never demand gratitude. They may not have wanted it here, but that sentiment doesn't belong to them, it belongs to official creators.

    But who are we to talk, we're on a pirate site.

    Anyway peace to you, too.