Hey everyone, after my friend read the reply, I took the time to read it as well, and I couldn’t help but shake my head.
While Bangtan seems to address my points, their response is from a narrow perspective shaped by an echo chamber. What's missed here is that I disengaged from the conversation with Bangtan after their first sentence. I expressed concern about being misrepresented and made it clear that I don’t support trivializing sexual assault. As an SA survivor, this was a valid response when I felt attacked or misunderstood.
Rather than engaging with my concerns in good faith, they accused me of manipulation, dismissed my feelings, and fixated on one comment I made elsewhere, viewing it through a narrow lens. **For example:** Bangtan claims that when Jaekyung pours soda on Dan, it’s sexual assault. I said that it’s harassment and abuse, not sexual assault. However, they seemed more focused on feeling superior and degrading me for simply stating the truth. Correctly labeling something doesn’t make me "disgusting" or dismiss Dan’s experience—it means I’m being precise. Mislabeling it both harassment and SA can dilute the seriousness of both harassment and sexual assault, making it harder to address them appropriately.
Instead of recognizing that other perspectives are valid, Bangtan’s condescending behavior, particularly toward an SA survivor, undermines their argument. Their hostile tone and agreement with falsehoods only contribute to creating a toxic environment.
They implied that by not responding to every single point, I was being dishonest or evasive. But the reality is that I was protecting myself. If I responded to all their points that addressed my points, my reply would have been empty, unless I tried to explain what I meant. Their accusations are dismissive and lack empathy, ignoring the personal and sensitive nature of my position.
Ultimately, they’re not engaging with my main point about how fiction can responsibly explore dark themes. If this type of narrative is removed, we risk losing many stories that provide an escape from reality. They’re fighting the wrong battle—claiming to stand against SA and rape in fiction while failing to show respect or empathy toward actual survivors. Instead, they fixate on perceived inconsistencies and make assumptions about my intentions, accusing both me and my friend of manipulation. This shows they’re not interested in dialogue, but in asserting a moral high ground while disregarding valid concerns.
The user above is NOT me. It is my cyberstalker obsessed with me and my alt accounts. It is easy to spot him as he is a rape defender and shameless user of Chatgpt. My role is to warn everyone about the cyberstalkers. My friends and I have been trying to create a safe environment here to where all opinions are welcomed, and we want to clarify that we have no part in the toxicity on this page—it occurs regardless of our presence.
Since you hold a different viewpoint, you may become a target, as they tend to target perspectives they dislike. We attempted to resolve the situation, but they insist we label it as rape or remain silent. We stand to protect people like you.
Moving this conversation to a different platform wouldn't help remove this toxicity. We have not been engaging with them; our focus has been on warning others. I want to prevent anyone else from getting dragged into this, which is why I speak out.
I am not part of the main group. I seen what was happening and I joined to defend people who have been defending Jinx fans and people with opinions like you for months. It’s not just a few individuals—it’s a widespread issue. The group behind this is everywhere on this site.
This post is from the real MD joined 10/7/23 is right.
The other one is trying to pretend to be them as they spread falsehoods.
The targets will be trying to engage with you and warn you but the cyberstalkers will be creating a negative and toxic place while spreading falsehoods to harm their targets and you as they pretend to be us.
Thank you for the reply. It's a shame to see them resort to the same overused insults that only reflect their behavior while trying to target others. It shows a lack of genuine engagement and understanding.
I’m really curious about something, it’s just a few question, please answer it honestly and try not to be rude.
1-) For the people who are disgusted by the ML behavior, is Jinx your very first Yaoi?
2-) Are you used to read only Shounen Ai?
3-) How many Yaoi have you read?
4-) If Jinx isn’t your first Yaoi, which one was it?
5-) Did you read or are reading the most popular Yaois?
6-) Do you know that no one is holding you captive to read this, that you have the choice to ignore this manhwa and pretend that it doesn’t exist?
7-) How old are you?
8-) Are you dealing with any kind of trauma right now?
9-) How long have you been a active member of the Yaoi community?
10-) Have you read Jinx?
11-) How worse is Jinx compared to other popular Yaoi out there?
That’s it for now, my honest opinion is that if:
- You’re a newbie in the Yaoi world;
- You’re young;
- Dealing with fresh traumas;
- Used only to soft genres;
- The ML face and the art was the main reason you choose to read this;
- You’re a Shounen Ai reader rather than a Yaoi reader;
- You’re not used to read about delicate themes been written by the mind of the capitalism’s slaves.
My advice to you is to give up, don’t read this, just straight up drop this and never read any popular yaois, keep yourself to Shounen Ai, it’s better for your mental health.
The same energy you have for this one, you should have it for the others out there too, that have a higher rating than this and are way worse in the SA theme.
I honestly stopped reading this (for now), still waiting for the redemption arc tho, because right now this is going nowhere.
P.s: English isn’t my first language, be aware of the grammatical errors.